Headline slightly sensationalised compared to article content. But he did say he’d go to Venezuela if he loses.
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But he did say he’d go to Venezuela if he loses.
He did not.
As I explained earlier today, he was commenting about crime decreasing around the world and, if Kamala were elected, it would be safer to meet the person he was speaking with in Venezuela than in the United States.
“If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country,” Trump said to Musk.
#“OK, so we’ll go. You and I will go, and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela.”
Cut this shit out, dude. He said it.
I don’t know how you’ve twisted your brain in a fashion that makes apples look like pencils.
You and the media are misquoting him as saying he is going to flee the country, possibly to avoid criminal prosecution.
He is literally saying it would be safer to have a meeting in another country due to decreased criminal activity and the threat of a Harris presidency.
There’s a valid conversation to have around his statement. We could be discussing the crime rates in the US compared to Venezuela and the rest of the world. We could be looking at Harris’ record as a prosecutor and her political agenda to this point. We could easily be debunking what he’s saying to pile on more evidence that he’s a liar. Instead, the public wants to go on and on about something he actually never said or even hinted at.
Moreover, what my concern here is, the public’s ability to read comprehensively is deteriorating at a rapid pace. People are disinterested in taking the time to read an article and obtain true facts in preference of engaging with others over their feelings.
Having genuine dialog with others is more about listening than it is interrupting them and spewing your ideas. Everyone’s reading a headline and reacting without taking the time to listen to the story, digest its meaning, consider other factors and context, then responding in a meaningful, relevant manner.
I’m personally observing a world that’s becoming less interested in having real relationships. People are struggling to interact with others in real life. Ragebait is just one value in a larger more complex experience that’s changing our relationships and our reality.
There’s a lot of noise in our lives today. Most of it serves as a distraction. It’s the constant churning of the “news” and the endless instant streaming of “content” and the pings and buzzing of our devices. If it hasn’t already, this noise is becoming an addiction. Without noise, we’d be faced with calmness and focused attention.
Trump is noise. It’s noise crated by him and his brand and the media organizations and influencers pining for your attention and engagement. This story is a fabrication. The story about him slurring during the interview is a misleading observation. It’s a money maker for content creators because we need noise. Musk saying there was a DDOS attack is a lie and a distraction. It’s the noises he’s injecting into the zeitgeist to pull our attention away from something else.
We all need to be better at reading comprehension and listening. Take a moment to understand what it is you’re commenting on before you just become more noise and a cookie jar for advertisers.
You claimed he never made plans to leave the country, so I posted his exact quote where he makes plans to leave the country and now you’re claiming I’m misquoting him?
He’s a convicted felon who has yet to be sentenced making plans to leave the country. Why didn’t you mention that in your list of other factors and context we could be talking about?
Evidently many Lemmy users don’t understand that this a threat, not a promise to leave. Direct quote from Trump:
“If something happens with this election, which would be a horror show, we’ll meet the next time in Venezuela, because it’ll be a far safer place to meet than our country,” Trump said to Musk. “OK, so we’ll go. You and I will go, and we’ll have a meeting and dinner in Venezuela.”
He’s implying the violence that will be unleashed on the US by his followers if he looses will make Venezuela (a country that is currently in revolt because of contested elections) seem safe in comparison to what his people will do here.
This is a classic “mobster” threat against anyone who opposes him that he just threw out.
I remember when the protests and people upset at the 2016 election were somehow ultra violent and murderous even though they never attacked anyone. I also remember when Charlie Kirk claimed that Republicans, unlike democrats, would not lose their shit if they lost. We all know how that went.
You need to remember something about Trump. He IS mobster in the end of the day. When he and his father were getting shit done at the start of his career they had to work with the mafia and build contacts with them. This is also why he was somewhat able to get stuff working in New York construction during the 80s. When he became a pariah the only people who still worked with him are basically criminal types and foreign governments who knew how easy it was to sway him.
As usual the US is doing everything it can do destroy Venezuela smh
I hate Trump, but this framing is disingenuous. In the context of what he was saying, he was trying to make “a point” about South American countries sending criminals to the USA. He was claiming that if he doesn’t win the election, it would be safer to have their next conversation in Venezuela because there would be no crime there as they’d have sent all criminals to USA.
So, you know, just more of his really stupid bullshit, but he wasn’t really saying he would flee to Venezuela. For one, that would require him to believe he had done something wrong or to admit some kind of defeat, two things that I firmly believe he is incapable of doing.
Also every American country (North and South) have international extradition laws, aka they would ship his criminal ass back to prison where he belongs)
Thought they did, maybe not. Stuck a deal for extradition / swap with the U.S. just last year apparently though. https://www.npr.org/2023/12/20/1220615028/biden-venezuela-fat-leonard
