I just tried to look up a specific video of a Nick Swardson stand up bit. All I searched was “Nick Swardson loitering”. There were 5 fucking ads before an actual user posted video, then one real human posted video that barely had anything to do with Nick, then 5 more fucking ads.

I knew they were forcing ads into videos but clogging the entire search feed with ads is unfuckingbelievable.

Is this really what it’s come to? Ads are more important than what I’m actually looking for? Are people really okay with this?

27 points

Are people really okay with this?

No, thats why they use adblock. Either install adblock or just use Brave or Opera browser. Ads will be gone forever

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librewolf my beloved

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I am debating between Brave or Firefix. Any arguments for/against?

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Brave is run by some pretty shady people who do things like automatically adding affiliate links to your URL or collecting donations for content creators without their consent

As far as an actual browser goes, Brave is based on Chromium so its more likely to work on every site but it has a bunch of crypto nonesense added that you probably would want to uninstall. There are more extensions that will “just work” on Chromium browsers, for example I’ve had issues with the Postman extension on Firefox before

Firefox is based on Gecko, its pretty well supported and follows all the standards but there is probably a higher chance that a site might break (usually down to its pretty strict privacy defaults) there isn’t really much bloat (other than a Pocket integration that you might want to turn off)

Mozilla also feel (to me at least) like one of the last groups of Good People on the web, you can reach their manifesto to learn more.

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Keep in mind that Opera is a shady company. Please avoid their products if you’re able and willing.

You should not use anything from Opera. The company is chasing trends, and its most successful ventures in recent history have been ripping off poor people in developing countries and marketing to gamers with a meme social media account. The company’s failed experiments have been abandoned without directly informing users, leaving them at increased risk of security problems.

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I know this is an incredibly unpopular take on Lemmy, but YT Premium is the best value subscription on the web by my reckoning. I watch an absolute fuck ton of content on YT, and I listen to an absolute fuck ton of music on YT music. And my partner does too.

If you don’t use YT enough to justify the cost of the sub, I understand being frustrated with the ads but it’s a free service. I can’t imagine the amount of data that YT serves daily to free users.

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Well they’ve successfully extorted you.
Most of us use ad blockers.

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Extorted? Why are you so dramatic? It’s a service I’m happy to pay for.

I use ad blockers too. But I also don’t mind paying for a good service. The cost of the service is worth it to me for the conveniences it offers. If I didn’t feel that way, I wouldn’t pay for it, but I also wouldn’t be complaining about something I’m not paying for.

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Yeah if you enjoy some kinds of things that are only with it and it’s like more content there is nothing extortion about it. You kinda implied you pay for it so as to not see ads. My bad.

Honestly though I personally don’t think any of this stuff is worth paying for but I’m not typical. My wife and I pay for Az prime for the deliveries alone but we get tons of extra stuff with it such as streaming tv, grubhub+ and a few other things like hbo max and peacock I think.

We also pay for Netflix. With all that, I still often find I search for something and either nobody has it or Az has it but you have to pay extra.

I torrent everything I want and fuck the lot of them. We’re already paying them as it is. But then that’s how I’ve been doing most tv and movies since like early 2000s.

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Sir! This is lemmy. You go with the hivemind or die in a fire.

“I pay for a thing because it’s worth it to me and here’s why.”

(OK, I’d like to hear your take…)

“Idiot! Capitalist apologist!”

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Or YouTube vanced/revanced for mobile

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There are many many options indeed.

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best value subscription

My problem with it is that it reinforces toxic monopoly, and I don’t even know how much money goes to the creators.

Also they raised price multiple times lately

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I’m the same regarding Spotify. Only service I pay for, but I’m happy to do so for now. Not even a big music listener, but it’s damned nice to hear anything I want, anywhere I want, for a small fee.

My most frequent use case is off in the boondocks. I can download a dozen playlists to my phone and play them all offline.

And this is coming from a guy that used to download 20 song fragments off Usenet and compile them to get a single MP3. Also, I still steal all my video content.

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I disagree on the value part. It’s more expensive than most other streaming aervices. If it was less than $10/mo I would sign up in a heartbeat

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I thought it was $9.99/mo. What the hell are they charging for it?

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$14/mo 🙃

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Yeah I’m with you on this, I actually only got it for YouTube music — which really is like “here you can play any song from the history of humanity and also yt video audios.” Well actually what happened is I was using Google Music and then the assholes shut it down and merged it into YT Music which is now roughly on par. I was pissed, but user retained

But I have been enjoying the fact that my subscription goes towards paying the ppl I watch, and I like that I’m unaffected by YT’s server side ads concept (which I’ve always wondered why they don’t do, I think it makes CDNs too hard to optimize while stitching ads directly into videos)

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Same. I originally got it for YT music. I don’t listen to as much music as I used to without a commute anymore, but my wife and I watch a ton of YouTube. And it’s mildly more difficult to block ads on the Roku too. I know pi holes exist, but my wife plays those freemium games that give you currency for watching ads and blocking all ads will break shit for her and then I have to fix it. Someone will tell me there’s an easy solve I’m sure, but honestly the subscription is just way easier and I really don’t mind paying. $16/mo for a family plan is 100% worth it to just not deal with all of that.

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you want YouTube Revanced

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I’ve been using New Pipe, but they seem to have broken every 3rd party front-end within the last week or so.

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I just pay for premium. Hassle free YouTube is worth more money than any other subscription I have.

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Jezus F Christ, Jimmy, just use Firefox and uBlock! Also works on the phone, by the way.

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I got both of those. I’ve been with YouTube since it came out and was called YouTube red however many years ago. My family plan has 5 or 6 slots. Between YouTube music and the video side and how many other family get to use it it’s an insane value. Plus half the money goes back to the creators I watch. I can’t find a single downside to paying.

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Many if not most creators have complained that what Youtube pays them is ridiculous.

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The exact amount of revenue generated by YouTube Premium subscriptions can vary significantly and is influenced by factors such as the number of subscribers, the subscription fees, and the overall engagement of those subscribers with content on the platform.

Creators can track the revenue earned from YouTube Premium through their YouTube Analytics dashboard.

Source-ish

And I’ve never heard content creators mention YouTube Red/Premium aside from saying it’s not as good a way to support them as subscribing to their Patreon or buying their merch.

It sounds like it doesn’t pay them out much, and they know it.

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I’ve been experiencing a ton of buffering issues lately trying to use YouTube with uBlock Origin. I’m pretty much on the brink of subscribing myself too. It’s by far the most valuable online platform for me and I’ve used it for free well over a decade. It was a good run and I’m not even mad.

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Not to mention a good portion of the sub goes back to all the creators you watch. People don’t want YouTube to make money for hosting costs, and people don’t want creators to make money for making video through ads. Really weird expectations.

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You’re doing exactly what they want you to do then. Why not try some alternatives for ad-free watching like Newpipe or Freetube or some such? Youtube is not worthy of your hard-earned cash…

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I’ve got a friend who thinks his YouTube Red subscription helps his subs make a living… So yes, this is what people like my retarded friend are bringing all of us.

I’m sorry… I really am.

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