I need a messenger that can work without a sim card. I tried jami but didn’t really like it. Thanks everyone
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There are quite a few. In order of preference, I used/tried:
- XMPP (Android-Conversations; Windows-Gajim)
- Element/Matrix
- Session
- Discord
- Slack
- Twinme
- Teams
- Skype
- Facebook Messenger
- Instagram DMs
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Threema. It’s e2e encrypted, comes with essentially everything a modern messenger needs and doesn’t require you to sign up with your phone numbers.
12 points
Anything that uses XMPP.
1 point
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Using this very good comparison site in German as base and ignoring the similarities:
Technical
- XMPP allows for various different client styles while Matrix doesn’t
- Fully featured, mature text-only clients for XMPP exist, but for Matrix there are only beta text clients available
- Matrix handles/addresses are always public in chat rooms while XMPP chat rooms can be configured to hide them
- Matrix has multi-server chatrooms for reliability in case of server or network issues while XMPP chatrooms alre always bound to one single server
- Matrix Chatrooms can be encrypted. XMPP chatrooms can be encrypted or not encrypted. (there’s no further explanation on this point, I assume it’s meant that Matrix servers can turn on encryption and that’s it, while XMPP servers allow the chatroom administrator to decice and do not force one or another)
- Administrative data is stored on one XMPP server. Matrix administrative data is stored on the servers of all connected users
- XMPP is modular and the protocol itself can be extended while Matrix is monolithic
- XMPP protocol uses XML while Matrix protocol uses JSON
- Matrix focuses on reliability and availability of chatrooms, XMPP focuses on features and extensibility
- XMPP uses less system resources than Matrix
- Chatroom data storage is done only on the XMPP server the chatroom is running on, while Matrix stores chatroom data on all of the servers of the connected users
- XMPP directly sends a message if the connection is open, otherwise a push notification is sent. Matrix only sends a push notification to the client and the client has to pull the message from the server
Organizational
- XMPP is an IETF standard while Matrix isn’t
- XMPP board and council are equally elected by all members. Matrix is a “single-party system” where the board decides who is allowed in the board.
- For XMPP all members are allowed to question/check/validate the board and council and there are annual elections. For Matrix, the Matrix.org Foundation (technical council) and New Vector Ltd. (service provider) expect trust from the community.
- On the XMPP board and council, all actors have to name their interests and their employer (this is to prevent having more than 15% of board/council members from the same company which would give a single company too much power). For Matrix there is no known information about such a clause.
