Stop expecting perfection.
Nobody is perfect. MLK had affairs, the founding fathers owned slaves, Churchill was racist AF, etc.
She’s doing a great job now and we can educate her the same way we turned Obama from anti-gay marriage.
We should judge people OVERALL not on stuff like being anti-vax (which to be clear is dumb).
I don’t expect perfection…? Being anti-vax is a big deal to me. That’s not a harmless ideology. It’s moronic and anti-science. This isn’t just some little thing I disagree with it’s, in my opinion, a huge moral and intellectual failure. I think it’s completely fair that this gets brought up because it’s directly relevant.
Not to split hairs but she is actually against vaccine mandates, not against vaccines itself. She is vaccinated against covid-19.
Personally I disagree with her and support mandates, but there is a considerable difference between anti-vax and anti-mandates.
No!
If even ONE thought in her head disagrees with MY world view then she is useless and NEEDS to be destroyed!
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This is where leftists get the reputation for forming circular firing squads.
Talking about someone’s glaring flaws isn’t the same as expecting perfection. That’s an intillectually lazy way to see it. Wanting people to only sing the praises of anyone is actually expecting your version of perfection.
Yeah. Put me on a pedestal instead. I’ve got some nice ideas. Like what if we made a car with a square steering wheel? I mean we won’t know the downsides until we try.
I don’t know man. My dad, my teacher and the fireman have no public presence so they won’t be the face of any media workers’ strike. And at least one of the above is also an anti-vaxx and/or an asshole. This lady is just doing her role and I don’t think it makes much sense to undermine her work on this subject because her poor takes on others.
But isn’t that what our society does these days? Or at least certain segments of it.
They take someone who is X and then elevate them to some unreasonably high status that no one person should attain, and then that same society drops them like they’re a hot potato when they find out that the person isn’t perfect.
To be clear, I don’t disagree with your take. We shouldn’t be undermining someone’s work because of some stupid opinion on this or dumb decision to do that.
But think about what’s become a rather popular event over the last couple of years. Some actor gets shunned for saying some stupid shit about vaccines. There has been a whole rash of events where statues of people long dead have been taken down. Buildings dedicated to certain people were renamed. Columbus - the poor guy’s legacy has been dragged through the mud because of people who can’t separate the fact that he was a great explorer but he was also a bit of a douchebag.
We need to stop elevating these people to the level of a deity, and then we won’t be shocked to find out the person was just human and a bit of a womanizer or a prick about money or he didn’t like certain groups all that much. Praise them for their singing or acting or the new world they explored.
Was he really a great explorer though? The guy dramatically underestimated the size of the earth and he and his crew probably would’ve died from thirst or starvation or whatever if they hadn’t run smack into the new world halfway to India.
You say on one hand we should stop putting people on pedestals, but then in the same thought you go on to say that Columbus’ “legacy” was ruined just because he was a bit of a douchebag.
Like how logically inconsistent are your own thoughts? Columbus was a piece of shit who genocided multiple ethnic groups. He never should have had statues in the first place. He didn’t even find what he was looking for. He was an arrogant fuck who got lucky, and the world probably would have been better off if he drowned at sea.
And nobody “dragged him through the mud”, they just took a realistic look at who and what he actually is, which is supposedly what you’re proposing.
God if there was one message I could forcefully implant into society as a whole it’s this. Well said.
Don’t put anyone on a pedestal. Not politicians, not celebrities’, not twitch streamers, not your girlfriend. You can love, respect and even like people, but don’t worship anyone, it leaves you blind to their faults and it’s a pain in the ass being the one on the pedestal in a relationship.
Everyone is a little loopy though. We’re all some flavor of hypocrite too.
I don’t mind celebrities being on a pedestal, because it is a common reference point for us all when discussing virtue or lack thereof.
We just all need to be reminded that they are still human and stupid in their own way.
I don’t get it
Fran Drescher, the woman on the right, is the spokesperson for the current strike in Hollywood, where writers and actors are trying to force the studios to agree to not use AI in upcoming productions. To clarify, she’s the current head of SAG/AFTRA, which is the screen actors guild (union).
We should also add that she used to be the star of a sitcom called The Nanny in the 90s and hasn’t been heard of much since, so it was a big surprise to a lot of people (me included) when it turned out she’s been really active behind the scenes.
Yeah a lot of people mostly recognize her for her very distinctive voice and it’s not what you’d expect for a union president who’s going to strike
The Nanny being the one to lead the charge vs Skynet is the exact shit I expect from this current clown timeline.
And I’m fine with it. Fran Drescher is awesome.
I don’t know who that is.
I didn’t either until this thread. Fran Drescher is the current president of the screen actors guild and I assume this has something to do with the writers strike. I guess AI content like images and stories, plus their own likeness and brands, is an issue in the strike.
I’m not paying any attention to the writers strike because I haven’t really consumed any new hollywood movies or tv shows in quite a while. Hollywood just isn’t relevant anymore and they know it, there’s just too much content online and other things to keep busy for me to care about their garbage.
Fran is quite well known for her role in The Nanny, and a pertinent scene is one where she fights not to cross a picket (strike) line, and her employer forces her across.
So a lot of us who remember this scene are all having a little extra giggle about the whole deal.
I always think of this article about how her surviving a home invasion and assault and then having a violent stalker while she was doing the Nanny led to the creation of the role of professional laughers for live studio audiences:
left:
lead actress in the Terminator movies - Linda Hamilton
right:
Fran Drescher, lead actress in “The Nanny” from the 90s. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000376/ as well as other things, of course. but this is what i remember her from.
Okay but I think we can all agree Fran Drescher is THE baddest bitch after having watched her impassioned call to arms.
