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As much as I like shitting on the US, I think all of the comments here are forgetting that this wouldn’t be a 1v3. It would be a world war. There would be no winners.

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Yes, it would be cataclysmic. In the longer term though, I would argue that just about everyone on the planet would be a winner if the US empire were finally put down. You can’t really overstate how much of an impediment the US is to global human welfare and development.

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World’s biggest terrorist organisation

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okay, but the US is kiiiinda terrible, but if the US loses here then china/russia/iran win…

so its not like the US just goes away; the US is replaced by full autocratic

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Uhhhh. Are you aware of just how happy the people of China are with their government? Harvard conducted a 15-year research project and found 95% of China approved of their government. I would LOVE to live in a place where we all felt like the government was actually doing we wanted to.

And to call it autocratic is just ridiculous. Autocracy is a very specific form of government. Every state you mentioned is a literal Republic.

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There would be an immense toll, but it would mean the destruction of the US, Israel, NATO, and neoliberalism generally, which I think means there is also room for optimism. If I may gesture towards Mark Twain, there are two Reigns of Terror here, and though we have reason to fear the latter one, it will not last as long or kill as many as the former one that it puts an end to. If there is not a nuclear holocaust, anyway

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If there is not a nuclear holocaust, anyway

That’s a pretty fucking big “if”

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14 points

Granted

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4 points

It’s pretty obvious it’s not a big “if”.

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And that Palantir is an MIC contractor. They would have this outlook because it would keep them busy. The reality of such a scenario is far more unrealistic.

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No winners is a fair outcome that I can live with.

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43 points

Bloodthirsty, insane, and suicidal

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Americans love to role play at having a democracy, but when push comes to shove the public is never consulted about such monumental decisions like ending human civilization.

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Wait sorry, Palantir saying this somehow reflects upon the US? Like I’m not saying that the US is good or bad but Palantir is definitely fucking bad

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Honestly yeah, a fascist billionaire’s policy thinktank trying to help gin up a war is reflective of US policy, especially US government policy since they help write it.

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Who do you think runs the US government exactly?

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We elect people to make decisions, that’s the whole concept behind representative government. We vote people in at the federal level who are supposed to protect us - it is one of their key responsibilities according to the constitution.

I understand that the concept of representative governance may be lost on people who have little say on those who govern them.

And just to be clear, no, ours is not a perfect system either. I’d prefer ranked choice to FPP voting, but even that has flaws.

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Democracy isn’t about electing people, it’s about having a government that works in the interest of the majority. Western implementation of the concept is clearly broken because the governments consistently act against the interests of the people.

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That’s not really how it works, though. For example, who sold I vote for to stop the support for Israel? No one. Or who would I have voted for to stop the war in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2008? No one. There are lots of things a majority of people favor but aren’t on the ballot because the rich determines what issues we can vote on and which ones we can’t.

We have the pretenses of a democracy, but it is scaffolded by money and private interests.

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So you better buy that thing my company sells. To be safe .

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I guess “The US will very likely end the world in nuclear hellfire” doesn’t roll of the tongue as well.

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Liberals are going to get us all fucking killed

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I mean, they at least got their reference but it wasn’t supposed to be manual guide.

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