Thank you GabeSter
He would have stuck it out stubbornly had he not been pressured. No cookies for Biden.
So you’re saying that a politician listened to members of his party and the voters, sidelining his own ambitions. And you have a problem with that?
It’s not just a matter of if, but also when.
Biden waited until damn near the last possible minute, and probably wouldn’t have stepped down if it wasn’t for the Trump shooting.
Waiting until the last second absolutely fucked the GOP though. They were only prepared to run against Biden and now they don’t have the time needed to spin up an effective campaign against Harris.
I don’t know if the timing was strategic or just a tough decision, both seem possible. But the end result is that we’re now in a better position to stop Trump in November.
I dunno - the timing was right after the RNC and Vance being locked in. Vance didn’t broaden the ticket appeal because they thought Trump had the election in the bag. The timing might not have been strategic but it worked out pretty damn well!
I have no doubt that he was presented the near certain possibility of being humiliated (some more) and handing over the remains of American democracy to a group of literal Nazis, just to safeguard his own ego.
I would have voted for his administration no matter what (I was relatively pleased with it), but I have no fantasies about who Joe is and why he really stepped down. Once Obama started campaigning for him stepping down, it was all over.
He quit to save his own ego and his “legacy”.
You type this and get up voted. I say the same thing more succinctly and get hammered.
I would have voted for him, but my vote double doesn’t count. I’m in a hard Blue state, Washington. You could support genocide and Washington would still vote Dem. Oh… Wait.
The thing is the nomination was his and there was nothing anyone could do about it. He could have stayed in the race. An argument can be made that it looks worse to step down halfway through the campaign instead of fighting till the end. An egocentric guy like Trump would never have stepped down. He would try to turn the base against the RNC and set the party on fire before giving up. That’s the contrast being shown here.
Sounds like gaslighting to me. He was very reluctant.
What’s the gaslight? What purpose would it serve to manipulate the populace into believing the narrative that he had good “feefees”?
You’re just spewing your favourite little reddit word. You’d get a gold star if you use it right! Too bad you’re too much of a froggie to do that. Sad. Womp.
Everybody in his shoes would be at least reluctant. Specially in Biden’s case who is known to overthink big decisions. What matters is that he made the right decision in the end.
Trump? Wtf.
Perfect in this case obviously was if Biden dropped out at the exact right moment, good being he dropped out in time for a recovery which he did
Love how we went from “if you’re calling Biden to drop out you’re a russian agent” to “he’s so great for dropping out since it’s the obviously correct choice, what a great sacrifice he did for his country”.
You were a Russian agent for implying that you wouldn’t still vote Dem in the event that he didn’t quit. Also the enthusiasm over Kamala, and now Walz as well, is great but absolutely unprecedented. While people certainly believed we could and would figure things out if Biden stepped down promptly, I don’t think anyone honestly believed things would come together anywhere near “this” well. Which makes it all feel extra satisfying in the aftermath.
Well, I still haven’t been personally thanked for saving democracy after saying Biden’s brain is mostly 2-week old potato salad at this point
That’s because you’re wrong, and are a Republican NPC for saying it. Russian little froggie. I’m sure you’re just as adamant about Trump’s lack of fitness, surely. And about like 2/3 pf the Republican caucus, frankly. If you can make the stretch argument that Biden isn’t mentally sound, I can make the solid argument that every Republican voter is inhuman
You were a Russian agent for implying that you wouldn’t still vote Dem in the event that he didn’t quit.
You sound brainwashed. Are you aware that the US government spend more money than russia in propaganda? Do you realize that you are calling russian agents people not willing to vote for a genocide supporter?
I love how people went from “if you vote for a Democrat you love genocide” to “damn with Biden gone, what other ways can we shit on anything resembling a Democrat?”
It’s the tired song and dance, capital will propagandize all the same. So many little froggies that simply sat under Daddies’ Fox News broadcast while playing with their toys. No one really cares what reason anyone has — if you make Republican arguments, you’re a Republican. Wrap yourselves up in “genociiiiiide” all you want, you trash bags. Literal inhuman. Republicans at least vote consistently to destroy themselves. These fake leftists are disgusting, only exist to destroy the cause they say they support. MAGA is just plainly treasonous. Gaza-leftists are insidiously so.
We can stop jerking this guy off now, he’s no longer the candidate. I think he was a shit candidate from the beginning, despite being worlds better than Trump.
What could have been if we had Bernie…
He did a commendable thing his opponent could never do. That is deserving of a meme. Stop being a stick in the mud lol
Stop living in fantasy. He was forced out, under threat of the 25th amendment. This wasn’t some selfless act…he lost his faculties and had to be booted by his own party under threat.
Clueless comment. He was not forced by anyone, maybe encouraged. Very clear what happened if you were paying attention; he made a public statement that he might not continue running if he fell ill, then promptly contracted covid and dropped out. Mike Johnson is too new to his seat to consider approving any action based on a25, Kamala would have to be the initiator of the process, and the only mentions I saw of it were well after the step-down.
Only after it got too far into his own party having to show to him that he had no real support path to victory.
Don’t praise people too much when they EVENTUALLY do the right thing. It’s good he finally did, but this is the guy who ran in 2020 suggesting he’d be a one-term president in the first place.
The power got to him like it does everyone.
Good for you, you eventually did the right thing. Would have been better if you had done so a hell of a lot sooner.
I’ll say only that temptation is ever present. He took action and passed the torch. I don’t want to take any credit away from the people that convinced him that was the correct course of action, but it ultimately came down to him actually doing it, something I can’t say I believe anyone on the right (and a hell of a lot of people on the left) would have done.
I’m not so sure bowing out earlier would have been better. Dragging it out as long as he did let Trump lean more heavily into the age issue than he otherwise would have, which is now coming back to bite him.
Of course, I don’t think that was a tactical decision, I think you’re right on the money when it comes to Biden’s motivations, but I do think the last minute about-face may have actually helped the Democrats here
I’m in 100% agreement, to the point where I was preparing for a Toupee victory until Biden stepped aside. But with how hilariously Vance is shitting himself in the foot (typo intentional), I have to at least briefly wonder if Biden waited to step aside until after the Toupee Party picked their VP. It’s blindingly obvious that the Republicans were only planning on campaigning against Biden. If he had stepped aside before Vance was picked, the Toupee might have picked a less unlikable VP candidate.
IIRC he stepped aside immediately after the republican convention that had had been aimed entirely at him leaving them scrambling, and endorsed Harris who was immediately read to run. The timing was impeccable!
Yeah, I don’t think his original decision to stay in was to make this tactical choice, but I absolutely think they figured out long ago he wasn’t going to win (or maybe even to have the stamina to keep campaigning) and they had him stay in until the worst possible moment for R’s.
