245 points

Ngl, that’s a genius headline

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Yeah I was expecting this to be a thought piece in general about companies requiring them be back in office.

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65 points

I did a double take when I first read it. Then I realized it was, Nothing, the phone company.

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I did not even realize until reading this comment that Nothing was a company.

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9 points

Fuck me.

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179 points

“this is a company for grown ups.”

That’s too bad. I was thinking of getting their phone when I needed a new one, I guess I’ll just add them to my mental list of companies to avoid.

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77 points

I’m a grown up. I’ve been remote for a decade. I’m pretty successful too.

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42 points

Right? Imagine thinking that working in a cubicle is something to aspire to as a “grown up.” Fuck that. I’ll continue working from home, like an adult, thanks.

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46 points

goddamn i read parts of the article trying to figure out which company… Im not a marketing guy, but nobody can tell me that “nothing” is marketable brand.

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21 points

Allow me to introduce you to their main competitor, elon musk.

Oh, I don’t mean competitor in the business market. I mean their main competitor for worlds least marketable brand identity.

He took twitter, which had it’s own global brand awareness, and blundered it so bad that every media company refers to it as “X (formerly twitter)” because they know that if they had just put X, nobody would know what the hell they were talking about.

And his other company is literally named “The Boring Company”. Where I assume they make disease, and murderous robots that are somehow racist.

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It’s still unbelievable considering Twitter had made its way into other languages’ lexicon other than English. In Spanish, for example, the word “tuit” had been added officially in the dictionary. It had no competitors in brand awareness and all it took was a manchild with money to burn to take it all down.

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37 points

Clearly it’s not a company for grown ups because you think they’re all children that won’t play together unless you cram them into a classroom and tell them, “Make nice.”

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6 points

Right? Grown ups can be trusted to get their work done without someone watching them all the time. It’s small children who need constant supervision.

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I guess I’ll just add them to my mental list of companies to avoid.

😆 mental ?! I already have my list in my browser bookmarks

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5 points

It baffles me because in many of the quotes they are clearly trying to be understanding and respectful toward those who disagree with this, but then they come out and call them children

Ironically, that’s a really childish thing to do.

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4 points

“this is a company for grown ups.”

When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up. – C.S. Lewis

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2 points

If only most CEO’s knew how to read. smh

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2 points

Don’t I have one and it’s the only Android device I’ve owned that crashes and reboots almost daily. I can’t recall any other device ever doing it actually.

This company’s all about the next gimmick and couldn’t care less about actually making decent phones.

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Part of it is literally named teenage engineering! The division working on the earbuds.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_Engineering

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16 points

Teenage Engineering is a hardware design firm that Nothing contracts with for hardware design. They aren’t a division of Nothing and they don’t work on just earbuds.

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10 points

Teenage engineering partnered with Nothing. That isn’t the same thing.

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"Remote work is not compatible with a high ambition level plus high speed,” Pei said in the email, telling employees who are worried about flexibility that “this is a company for grown ups.”

Sounds like he actually means it’s a company for exploitable young people and socopathic assholes. Grown-ups have other responsibilities and don’t want work to commandeer their whole lives.

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57 points

“This company is for grown ups. Now sit over there where I can check on you constantly and do what I tell you like a child that can’t be trusted alone.”

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9 points

The actual sentence, according to a Verge website comment, was: “This is a company for grown ups, so if you need to be out of office to deal with some issues, we trust you to make the right decision.” If true, this doesn’t reflect well on Verge journalism.

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11 points

I need to be out of the physical office all the time to deal with my actual life. How about that? WFH 4eva

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I don’t care about Verge. I care about the person who cons others into toiling underpaid so that they can Lambo and talk shit to magazines.

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15 points

Guarantee this is a ploy to chase off the ‘less committed’ employees (read: less desperate), while not having to announce mass layoffs.

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8 points

The real problem is that Nothing brings… nothing to the table. Oh look, another startup making another Android phone in a sea of companies making Android phones, with yet another skin.

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3 points

What do you mean? Their phone has lights on the back.

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106 points

This just means they’re a struggling company who needs to cut headcount and want to do it without paying severance

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58 points

In addition, this tactic will result in the best employees leaving first, because they’ll get employed somewhere else.

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18 points

Cue the pivot to some ridiculous buzz tech like AI in the near future, then being acquired and promptly abandoned by some big corp.

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5 points

The thing with AI is, what the term today refers to most often is neural networks, which are really advanced statistics. And the thing is, to get more precise statistics, you need exponentially more data. And of course the marginal utility decays exponentially. So exponentially increasing marginal expenses meet exponentially decaying marginal utility.

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20 points

Considering this company was founded as a remote work company from the beginning, you’re absolutely right.

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7 points

It’s such bullshit too because drastically changing someone’s working conditions is clearly a constructive dismissal and should lead to severance payments.

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74 points

The way this usually works out is you loose all the good employees and you’re left with the dregs who were unable to find another remote position in time.

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