I guess they’re giving up on convincing people to download their launcher.

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Not gonna play them if they include their launcher after game is started from Steam lol.

EDIT: I am very happy to hear that everyone hates them. EA as well as Rockstar has shown that their launchers are shit. On Steam Deck EA games often fail to start at all due to EA launcher updates, and Rockstar launcher takes around 3-5 minutes to start a fucking game (which should start instantly).

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93 points

This should be unacceptable. Launchers are bloatware.

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I don’t understand what the point of a blizzard launcher is - steam is already a launcher.

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53 points

Ads. Ads and data harvesting.

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yeah, plus steam takes 30%

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The Battle.net launcher pre-dates Steam though, doesn’t it?

Edit: guess not. Steam came out in 2003. I hadn’t heard of it until well after the Battle.net launcher came out in 2013. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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22 points

Battle.net actually launched in 1996, though the client as it existed back then would hardly be recognizable as a launcher/storefront today. The modern client launched in 2009.

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33 points

Mike Ybarra confirmed on the bird site that these games will launch directly through Steam, no bundled launcher nonsense.

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confirmed

I’ve heard OW2 has dropped PVE while it was confirmed that PVE will exist lol.

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It was not just “confirmed” - that was whole point of OW2.

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That’s awesome!

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4 points

My immediate reaction was:

Pffffffffffff…get fucked!

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4 points

Battle.net launcher can literally be closed after the game is running. It even has a setting to automatically do so. Why would they pull this sort of bullshit, I have no idea

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Why would they pull this sort of bullshit, I have no idea

They aren’t, they said that the Steam versions of Blizzard games will not require the Battle.net launcher at all.

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Each time battle net launcher opens,it displays a popup banner for cosmetics, warcraft stuff, overwatch stuff etc. They get free ads in your eyeballs.

No way they will let it go. It will be steam -> battle.net -> game

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They’ve stated it will launch OW2 directly.

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I expect the worst, and I am usually right. You are probably correct lol.

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Do we know if it’ll work this way ? It sounds so stupid but I wouldn’t put it past them

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Pretty sure it either allows to login within game, or launches their own (micro?) launcher first, where you have to login with Blizzard account and then starts the game.

Pretty much all “steam games” that are primarily available elsewhere run this way using mini launchers…

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On Steam Deck EA games often fail to start at all due to EA launcher updates, and Rockstar launcher takes around 3-5 minutes to start a fucking game (which should start instantly).

I mean, this sounds suspiciously like something a company that makes the device that also owns and runs the biggest digital game store might do intentionally.

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I really wish Steam would put their foot down and stop these launchers. They are nothing but a nuisance and add no value for the customer.

EDIT: Just to be clear, when EA Play joined Gamepass there wasn’t a separate launcher when you went to play an EA game on the Xbox. Steam could make this work with them and the other companies. They have enough pull to make this work - it would be greatly welcomed.

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According to the steam page it says it only requires a battle.net account. Usually it says when another launcher is required.

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Steam having a monopoly is not a good thing for anyone. Competition is good, even if the other launchers are a bit annoying.

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Yeah but like, launcher isn’t a market. Game Store is the market they’re in. I’ll happily buy a game from a different store if thats the only place it’s offered or even if it’s just cheaper there. The annoyance is when they want to be Steam. I don’t want to be forced to download another launcher to play a game. If you want what Steam has, create a launcher that offers better services than Steam.

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But most games aren’t DRM-free, so the launchers are necessary to verify your account and ownership of the game. Otherwise every store would be GOG, and most publishers won’t use it.

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This isn’t a monopoly issue. Other launchers exist. Most of the games on Steam are available on these other launcher, yet people still prefer Steam.

I can only speak for myself, but I prefer Steam because it’s more customizable so I can set it to open to my library first instead of a rotating ad banner, the storefront ads are not intrusive and can be easily ignored, and steams remote play is something that no other launcher offers.

In fact, I am not sure what the other launchers offer that they excel at over Steam.

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Having a monopoly is not good… I just wish others wouldn’t completely ignore Linux users… Valve/Steam on the other hand is seriously pushing it forward which makes me very much biased toward them.

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Yeah. While them having the most successful platform for distributing games can be troublesome in the monopoly sense, I’m still sunny to them just because of their support for the Linux community.

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Steam has competition by way of Epic, EA, Blizzard. Steam is just the far superior product and people don’t want to change

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At least Valve isn’t a public company and beholden to shitty investor politics though, so I am more okay with Steam than… literally any other game launcher.

Plus they’re the only launcher that fully supports Linux, so until that changes I am rooting for Steam.

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Yeah, steam is good, but it can get bad if they sit around for too long and get fat. The threat of others is a good thing.

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I just wish the competition gave any attention to Linux support. GOG Galaxy has been out idk how long, they sell Linux games, and still not even a launcher.

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i love how polarizing the votes on this are, you aren’t wrong. gog is a huge competitor but they have their own launcher too which is annoying

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Competition is good, even if the other launchers are a bit annoying.

What does “competition” between companies really mean? It means they are competing for customers. Annoying me with shitty launchers is the opposite of competing. Make things cheaper, offer better services and more features. This is competition. Steam (and GOG) is the only one actually “competing” here. And look what happened? Microsoft, Ubisoft, Blizzard… one by one they fall to Steam because they simply cannot comprehend this fact.

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So let them distribute their launchers and storefronts, Valve couldn’t stop it. But it’s not monopolistic for Steam to say “if you want us to approve your product for our store, you can’t have the game launch into a pop-up for someone else’s store”.

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How is a shiti launcher a competition…

You want competition go to GoG or Epic… Or pirate

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False. It’s a good thing for Gabe.

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Back in 2011, Rob Pardo of Blizzard said of Diablo III’s always-online requirement, "I want to play Diablo 3 on my laptop in a plane, but, well, there are other games to play for times like that.”

I wasn’t a fan of that sentiment and I haven’t played a Blizzard game since.

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“well we have a product already for the people who can’t afford the always online connection for Xbox one. It’s called Xbox 360.”

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Lol what a stupid take it was, glad that Don Mattrick has been replaced.

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All except Diablo. Diablo I is still my favorite Diablo game, though.___

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The only bliz games i would consider playing lol

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Never touched my Blizzard Account again after the sexual harassment and paygap scandal.

I’ve put 15 years of lifetime into my druid… It still hurts a little because I’ve loved WoW for a long time.

So Blizz switching to Steam couldn’t interest me any less.

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Same after they kowtowed to China about Hong Kong and Taiwan.

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Ditto. I won’t even give them usage stats on games I had previously purchased. Nothing to take to the board and say “we have returning users that we hope to convert into sales!”

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Now I’m not gonna buy/play them on steam too

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You and me both brother.

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