Are you one of those damn night people complaining about us morning people getting on with stuff in the limited time window we have?
When I am doing stuff at night I try to be as quiet as possible. The morning people could follow this until 11 am.
But we won’t because 11am is unreasonable. That’s a third of the day wasted.
You’re not an owl. Go to bed earlier.
A lot of us work at night. My bed time is 8am. Why exactly do you deserve sleep more than I do just because I’m on a different equally necessary schedule?
Exactly! All those hospital workers on the night shift can go without sleep.
Mindful and considerate, yes. But that doesn’t mean I put my entire day on hold for people that don’t get up until 10 or 11.
8am is pretty reasonable start to the day for me.
But I also believe that people bitching and saying no loud noises before 10am are being just as selfish as the people who get up and do yardwork at 6am. If someone has a problem or some extraordinary reasons for wanting it to stay quiet later, they can talk to each other and try to find a compromise.
And out of 7 days, if you are only being inconvenienced for a couple hours maybe that’s something you should be more tolerant of.
Cool. No loud parties after 9pm then? Or is inconveniencing my sleep okay because you do it at night?
I’ve got one day a week I can do yard work, and only until 9am until it hits over 90° out. Sorry, buddy. But you might have to deal with some noise. Wish we could all live in perfect harmony. But until then you have to deal with some shit you don’t like and I have to deal with some shit I don’t like and we’ll do our best to not inconvenience each other too bad.
You can join the loud party and have fun I can’t join you cutting your own grass and I wouldn’t have fun anyway…
You can’t do the yard work at 6pm instead? If your neighbors are having loud parties every week then yes you should talk to them and say it’s affecting your sleep, and if they don’t listen report them. My neighbors came over and said they would be playing music past 10pm and if that would be okay. Not being noisy when your neighbors might be asleep (even if it’s a big inconvenience) is just being considerate. If your neighbors are being noisy and you have no recourse then that’s a obviously different.
Also, get a sun hat and a handheld fan, take breaks, unless it’s a literal heatwave then you can manage (source: have done yard work at noon during a heat wave)
And out of 7 days, if you are only being >inconvenienced for a couple hours maybe that’s >something you should be more tolerant of.
Out of 7 days these are the only two days most people can sleep past 8 and some people like sleeping. It is no different than consistently throwing late night parties during weekdays when most people have to wake up early the next day. There is a generally acceptable universal range which is no loud noises between 10pm to 9am. If you are the person who needs to make noise (such as the occasional party or repairs that need to start early etc) then it’s you who should go and tell/ask the neighbours about it, not the neighbours who should come and convince you to reduce noise.
Lawns are one of the stupidest things Americans obsess about.
There is no mention of lawns in the post. Is this maybe supposed to be a response in one of the comment threads?
Yeah I’m up at 3-4 am every day so I’m waiting for our local ordinance to say it’s okay before I’m being loud. We have quiet hours 10p -7a. There are definitely people who make noise during the quiet hours though. I’m m in the US but I couldn’t care less about my lawn though. Probably some of my neighbors wish I did.
I have a rule that if my noise is a problem for someone they will surely come, knock on the door, let me know and I will stop it immediately.
It hasn’t happened yet so I assume no one is inconvenienced.
Actually I extend this to all areas of life. I believe that if something I do is a problem for someone, they will tell me. It’s much more sane than second guessing if my guitar session gets through the walls or not and checking the thickness in the architecture plan and calculating decibels.
I disagree. It’s the only sane way of thinking. You cannot be in the head of other people, cannot possibly know what they tolerate or not and then if they say they don’t like something you do you must decide if their intolerance is reasonable.
It’s something I live by. And strongly believe is the only way to properly savour the fruits of reality.
Take everything as it was yours too and if someone contests it then you can split the cake. This is the secret to having truly good time in this waking world.
Most people are afraid to take things, to set boundaries, to be bold and they dwell and die in unhappiness having nothing. Don’t be like them. Fight for yourself.
Are you saying you perform zero mental calculus to determine these sorts of things? You do not consider laws, social norms, or even morals? Where do you draw the line? If there is a literal community fruit tree at a park near your house, would you take all the fruits until people ask you to leave some for them? If you are driving home and you see a house with a beautiful garden, would you stop and steal some of the plants because the resident should tell you not to? Would you practice your guitar at 3am with an amp because, who knows, maybe your neighbors actually enjoy it or maybe they sleep with earplugs and since you had a great musical idea at 3am, you should “be bold” and “take what’s yours” and they should tell you 3am is a stupid time to play guitar with an amp?
Did you also say you live in a homogeneous community of somewhat assholes and you think you’re being bold by also being an asshole?
Or maybe they just don’t want to take the risk? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/29/five-people-killed-in-south-east-texas-shooting-cleveland
Haha I am so intimidating brr scary. In my country we haven’t reached such levels of madness yet and generally people are normal. The place in which you dread to interact with your fellow humans must be terrible indeed. But then I live in a slav hobbiton among religious peaceful hobbits. Racist and xenophobic hypocrites yes but never violent. Good people.
They may slander you when they think you don’t hear them but you can go on the night streets without worry. I kinda love them.
I live in a safe area (not in the US), I know most of my neighbours at least somewhat but I wouldn’t ever confront them directly because I don’t know who’s on the other side of the door and how they deal with confrontation. It only takes one asshole to put me in the hospital because I dared tell them they were being too loud, even if 99% of my neighbours are sweet and caring.
It’s not my job to think constantly if my every minor single action can offend or inconvenience someone. Cmon that would be insane
If someone has a problem with my pyjama outdoors then they can tell me and I probably will consider it for a while like a second and then idk get a notification and forget probably if I am being honest. But I tried to take it into consideration your valuable opinion on my outfit. I really did try. It’s called living in a society, we need to care
My neighbor is showering at 6 am on a Saturday morning. Is he working on the day when I get to chill?
No he’s an out of touch asshole, not me.
