you know Telegram is secure when governments are trying to arrest the founder.
The French kidnapping of Pavel Durov is a huge violation of human rights.
Alternatively: It is not (and generally not even encrypted) and he just happened to be in contempt.
Plenty of military-oriented and shady-business going in in there.
There’s still the possibility that the authorities wanted to go after specific someones with a proper warrant and Durov blocked it. No country on earth goes for that.
We’ll get to know the charges soon enough.
During my time as an amateur disinfo researcher I found that ALL the fascist groups are on Telegram. Also all the antivaxers, qanon nuts, maga, conspiracy theorists the lot. One big fash melting pot.
Telegram needs to be shut down, years ago.
It’s okay to not tolerate hatred, fascists and misinformation.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society’s practice of tolerance is inclusive of the intolerant, intolerance will ultimately dominate, eliminating the tolerant and the practice of tolerance with them.
You are the fascist who we should not tolerate.
Telegram is used by almost 1 billion people. Yet you want to shut it down because of political disagreement with what some of those people say.
So, instead of fixing the cesspool we just designate a place for them? Why not just going after the ones committing crimes and state that big public groups must have moderation for basic shit? (Like no death threats and that kind of “moderation”, not a "I don’t like your opinions)
And you think that’s only on Telegram, there’s also groups on WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram… are they going to arrest Mark Zuckerberg?
If Telegram is shutdown today, those groups will move to other platforms, it could be also Lemmy.
Is not about ilegal activities, but privacy, you can have a private (E2EE) or one where governments watch all private messages.
Seriously? Arresting messaging app CEO for content of people’s chats? I guess pigs are pissed, that they can’t crack the encryption.
You don’t need to crack down encryption for most of the platform. There are people in open groups who sometimes post illegal stuff.
If someone posts that they want to see person XY dead, it should not make a difference whether it’s on Reddit, Lemmy or in an open Telegram group…
The least we can expect is some kind of moderation like on Reddit or here.
Encryption on Telegram only works in 1 on 1 chats and is turned off by default so no one use it.
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When talking abou encryption for chat apps, it’s uaually about E2E…
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We are usually talking about open groups on Telegram. I can join them. You can join them. Police can join them. Everyone can read everything afterwards.
Your connection to the Lemmy server you are using is also encrypted. But I can read your response anyway… So, no E2E…
You should really brush up on how the internet and computers work, this is a scarily bad way to think about your Internet traffic
He was travelling from Azerbaijan, where he had been meeting with Putin. There is a theory that he knew he would be arrested and chose to go there to avoid retaliation and falling out of a window.
That would be a wild story.
“Putin killed by Telegram CEO, Russia in chaos”
What is the charge? For operating a messaging platform? A succulent private messaging platform?
Allowing criminal activity to go unmoderated on the platform. Including but not limited to fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, organized crime and promotion of terrorism.
promotion of terrorism.
You know the accusations are bogus when you see this.
Just because it is most of the time bullshit, it doesn’t mean that is not a thing ever. The “think of the children” doesn’t imply that legit application of child-protection laws are not a thing.
Telegram is for example known for Russian military bloggers, which are, in fact, promoting terrorism.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Even as a general user I’ve come across illegal shit on Telegram, so they clearly aren’t even attempting to moderate. It would be absolutely zero surprise that obvious terrorist organizations like ISIL would be using the platform for some communication and recruiting. And that doesn’t even get into subjective shit like Russian aggression and attacks on civilians in Ukraine, which many would consider terrorist attacks.
true but if its truly end to end encrypted it cant be moderated.
between this and mega its clear they want your files easy to reach and access, privacy and security be damned.
the internet should be free for the same reason we have the 2nd amendment - its necessary for exposing and opposing tyranny.
so kill telegram and watch criminal orgs and militant groups just spin up their own servers or use encrypted radio or just encrypt messages themselves to send through any other platform.
its the cops and feds job to investigate these people, they didnt need a fucking all seeing AI to do it in the prior century and they dont now.
i mean seriously what happened to sting operations? its so damn easy to catch predators n shit on discord, and these telegrams are easy enough to join. do actual detective work smfh .
if its truly end to end encrypted
Telegram chats aren’t end-to-end encrypted by default, and group messages cannot be encrypted. Just saying.
As someone who did not. What is it referencing here?
Edit: Thanks for the replies. The video was funny, lol.
See @TWeaK@lemm.ee Woosh link in the comments below
The reference on wikipedia, for my fellow people out of the loop
