Separated bike lane is the only way. Anything else is knowingly getting bikers killed.
Nuh uh. My city painted pictures of bicycles on the asphalt in the right lane of a busy road, so now drivers know itโs also for bikes and itโs suuuuuper safe.
Thatโs what Big Bike Lane doesnโt want you to know. You donโt need to build a bunch of infrastructure to separate cyclists and cars - you just need paint! Especially the new kind that wears off the road in less than a year and doesnโt get repainted.
In my city, all of the pictures of bicycles on the asphalt are underneath parked cars.
I thought about making some stickers that say like โIโm as asshole that parks in the bike laneโ and slapping them on cars that were doing so, but Iโd probably get caught and sent to jail for a decade.
Come to my city, Edmonton, Alberta. Vehicles regularly drive on dedicated bike lanes. Poor signage, barricades and dumb drivers.
Separated bike lanes. Not by a line of paint or some curb at the intersection but by several feet of physical barrier. Raised planters work well and are attractive but putting the parking strip between traffic and bikes (as long as the parked cars canโt open doors into the lane) also gets the job done.
Yep, we have all of the above. I still see bewildered drivers in the bike lanes every week.
I drive a motorcycle regularly. I make it a habit to check where people ahead of me are looking (by looking into their side mirrors) so I can predict whether theyโll merge into me.
About 1/3 of drivers are on their phones, not looking at the road at any given time
I ride daily, also skateboard and work in transport, my local political rep came past the other week and all I could say was โcan we get those phone cameras every 200m on every road in the country? Itโs the only way weโll get the fuckers off their phones.โ
Hope she took it on board tbh.
Yeah, but do you actually wear high vis?
Vest and helmet cover?
Or are you one of those people that say noise is the only indicator completely disregarding the advances in car sound proofing that only makes loud bikes an annoyance to pedestrians?
Did you know by mile driven, motorcycles kill more pedestrians than cars or trucks?
Compared with cars, the RR of killing a pedestrian per vehicle mile was 7.97 (95% CI 6.33 to 10.04) for buses; 1.93 (95% CI 1.30 to 2.86) for motorcycles; 1.45 (95% CI 1.37 to 1.55) for light trucks, and 0.96 (95% CI 0.79 to 1.18) for heavy trucks. Compared with cars, buses were 11.85 times (95% CI 6.07 to 23.12) and motorcycles were 3.77 times (95% CI 1.40 to 10.20) more likely per mile to kill children 0โ14 years old. Buses were 16.70 times (95% CI 7.30 to 38.19) more likely to kill adults age 85 or older than were cars. The risk of killing a pedestrian per vehicle mile traveled in an urban area was 1.57 times (95% CI 1.47 to 1.67) the risk in a rural area.
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/11/4/232
Literally 3.77x more likely to kill a child per mile than a car, and youโre focusing on peeping in windows as you zip by?
So can you please stop trying to see how many car drivers are on the phone while you ride one of the most dangerous vehicles possible for you and people minding their own business walking around?
Your hobby isnโt more important than peopleโs lives, even if it makes you feel better about other shortcomings you may be dealing with and canโt change.
Note the publication year of the article, and the year of the data collected. 2005 and 2002, respectively. Trucks and SUVs are demonstrably larger and more prevalent on the roads in the last twenty years in the US, and those were pre smartphone.
And plenty of us ride motorcycles for commuting and economic reasons, theyโre not only toysโฆ Even if it is a vehicle that attracts a bunch of assholes, which Iโll clearly admit
Is this per accident? or pee accidents that didnโt happen with motorcycliats not on phones? People reading phone while driving are just selfish asaholes. Bluetooth exiats, talk to text exists, ok google, ok siri and yetโฆassholes
Is this per accident? or pee accidents that didnโt happen with motorcycliats not on phones?
Itโs per mile drivenโฆ
killing a pedestrian per vehicle mile
Motorcycles are exponentially more dangerous than cars, or are you going to blame pedestrians and imply they died because they were on their phones and not listening to obnoxious exhaust despite the Doppler effect meaning you donโt hear it till youโve been run over?
Hey I think you missed this extremely important part of your quoted source:
Results: Passenger cars and light trucks (vans, pickups, and sport utility vehicles) accounted for 46.1% and 39.1%, respectively, of the 4875 deaths, with the remainder split among motorcycles, buses, and heavy trucks.
Hey I think you have never taken a statistics or logical reasoning course.
Yes in total number cars and light trucks kill the most pedestrians. Thatโs not what is being discussed.
Per mile driven, motorcycles are more than 4x more likely to kill a pedestrian. If motorcycles were used the same amount as cars and light trucks, the total number of deaths per year from them would be almost 20,000 people
Motorcyclist are statistically more dangerous drivers to pedestrians.
Hey. I think you donโt understand average or what the phrase โper mile drivenโ means.
Thereโs a shit ton more cars and trucks than motorcycles.
But per mile while youโre operating a motor vehicle, motorcycles kill more pedestrians
Does that make sense?
If not, can you clarify what in this sentence is causing your confusion?
Did you know by mile driven, motorcycles kill more pedestrians than cars or trucks?
Seeing a cyclist in hi-vis is enough for a driver to downgrade their phone to iOS 9
Anytime Iโm cycling I make sure I know where every car is and never let any vehicle sneak up on me, because I expect car drivers to be distracted and oblivious to most laws of the road. Because of this Iโve not had any close calls yet
Lol they have turn signals, big ones, with their left arm. Of course, they need to actually use the signalโฆ
And the mirror? But sorry, thereโs a reason we donโt stick large mannequin hands on cars, never mind that it forces driver to hold the handlebar with one arm as they have to prepare for a turn.
If you think hand signals are a substitute for turn signals and make no note for mirrors, you donโt drive, period. As someone who drives and bikes, I can tell you that cars pay a lot more attention when you put in the effort.
Using light mode on your phone prevents getting blinded by hi-vis tech. Or by flashbang/stun grenades. Or by nukes.
