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No no no no no.

I’m a chemist. Organic chemistry PhD, now a process chemist in the industry. I do this for a living. Do not distill isopropanol that’s been exposed to air for any meaningful length of time.

Isopropanol slowly reacts with oxygen in the air to generate peroxides that, when you concentrate them down, EXPLODE. Source. Sorry, not an open access journal. But please take my word for it.

Unless you have a way of confirming the peroxide levels in your isopropanol are near zero, do not concentrate it down by distillation. You’ll blow up your glassware, which will probably expose what you’re distilling to your heat source, which will generate a secondary fireball.

PLEASE do not do this.

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The issue with isopropanol peroxide formation is that exposing it to air – even when just using it, like when you’re cleaning parts – starts the process. The air in the head space of your containers is also enough to form them over time. You don’t necessarily need to see solids in the containers for it to be dangerous, since they’ll crystallize out as you concentrate the solution during distillation.

It’s also a numbers game. It probably won’t explode the first time you do it. But there’s a chance each time. Do it enough, and you’ll have an incident.

There are chemical reductants that can clear peroxides. For industrial scale isopropanol distillation, I’m not sure what they use. It may be that they just never distill down to the point that peroxides concentrate to a dangerous level.

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Concentrated Hydrogen peroxide is scary AF!

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I love EnF. But I assure you, organic peroxide formers are scarier.

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This is the exact video I thought of and where I learned about them!

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Sounds like fun! Got to go get a still though.

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Please, don’t do this thing.

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This is legit cool, but the fact that you’re doing this on a garage floor instead of in a hood or outside is terrifying

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These companies barely release data sheets for pla filaments. I wouldn’t boil anything with resin in it in any garage for any amount of money.

https://www.elegoo.com/blogs/3d-printing/elegoo-resin-sds

Isopropylidenediphenol, aka bpa

Edit, I just keep finding more shit in the sds, trimethylcyclohexyl acrylate, butyl acrylate, repeated exposure can lead to lung damage

Brother, I hope you’re in one of those Andromeda Strain full body suits.

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TLDR for anyone reading: Do not do this!

There is a very well laid out reason by @becausechemistry@lemm.ee in this thread, but suffice to say this is dangerous to an extreme and is not worth the risk to save a little money.

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How much $ you saving (or any other motivations)?

Don’t have frames of reference so perhaps what proportion less are you paying by doing this?

Assuming it’s no small sum/% given risks called out by you and a couple others. Glad you got a discussion going so you can give it all more thought!

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Yo, this thread caught my eye, but because it’s deleted, it’s unclear exactly what it’s about. Can someone summarize exactly what I’m to avoid?

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Don’t distill your own isopropanol in your garage/yard. Simple as that.

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That is shocking because many articles on the internet suggest this, and I myself have been distilling IPA for years.

Not trying to challenge or argue, but I’m just surprised and a little embarrassed.

Can anyone comment why this hasn’t been a problem for me? Is this a matter of potency? Or number of cycles of distilling?

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This post goes into detail why you shouldn’t do it: https://lemmy.ml/post/19598195

As to why there are so many articles on the internet: if there are many articles recommending jumping off a cliff… /j

That stuff is dangerous. Don’t trust anyone on that stuff, just because they have a homepage.

I’m guessing you were just lucky.

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