• Kamala Harris’ campaign is demanding that microphones stay unmuted at the next debate.
  • It’s a break from Joe Biden, who insisted on microphone muting at the June 27 debate.
  • It indicates the vice president thinks outbursts from Trump would end up benefiting her.
126 points

just me, or is this the most muscular feeling dem campaign in a loooong time?

they are taking every opportunity to shine light into dark gop crevices, including the roach infested crevice of trumps mind.

the smell republican blood in the water is a helluva drug.

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48 points

We swapped dentures for teeth

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3 points

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I can’t wait until that first week of November when Beyoncé and Taylor Swift show up to help get out the vote.

I was one of those that thought Joe Biden should stay in the race. And I’m so glad to be wrong.

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I was telling people we don’t really have a choice, since it’s ultimately something he gets to decide. I was surprised that he turned the pressure campaign into a fait accompli for Harris - which I doubt was the response they were hoping for.

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3 points

I thought he should stay in the race because I also thought the Democrats were incapable of immediately coalescing behind another single candidate. If I had know they were capable of it, I would have been all for it.

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9 points

Reminiscent of 2008.

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5 points

Except McCain still has more character in his dead pinky toe than Trump has in his entire body. For example, McCain told a lady to her face that Obama wasn’t a secret Muslim, and called for unity and respect in his concession speech.

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3 points

McCain was a flawed man (like all men), but a man of integrity, no doubt.

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97 points

There have been enough reports of Trump privately calling Kamala a b*tch that there’s a strong possibility he could snap and use that word if she starts to embarrass him. There’s also a non-zero chance of him using some other slur or just saying weird racist things

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And sadly, large swaths of his base would just eat it up for tElLiNg It LiKe It Is or because they’re mostly racist misogynists.

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28 points

It would galvanize his base but they’re already a lost cause. Him having a racist/sexist outburst on live TV and Harris handling it like an adult would only help her campaign.

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I also think there may be women who vote “how they’re told” who wouldn’t appreciate that and would tell their husband they voted for Trump but actually vote for Harris.

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Hopefully this will pull some centrists and apolitical people away from voting for Trump.

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I’m willing to bet that’s the goal on Harris’ part. The Democrats have finally found that the way to unravel him is just belittle him rather than giving him any measure of power. If the debate goes forward unmuted, she just has to be dismissive and call him weird/old/whatever and I guarantee he’ll fly off the handle.

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15 points

Also the “I’m speaking” and continuing.

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2 points

The Captian Queeg Maneuver. 😃

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He was able to keep it contained against Hillary back in the day and just called her a “nasty woman”. He will have no such restraint with Harris. I’m expecting him to say he will “see you next Tuesday”, like he did with that lawyer. It’s the type of thing an edgy twelve year old would say, which is why I expect him to say it.

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6 points

I am sure that she has studied everything that he said about Clinton and all of his tactics and is just ready to tear him apart. That said I suspect his plan will be just to talk solidly and not give anyone a chance to say anything. The more noise he puts up and doesn’t answer any questions The less that he can get into trouble.

I also suspect if it starts going poorly for him he just walks off stage.

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I also suspect if it starts going poorly for him he just walks off stage.

That would be great! Imagine the commercials:

  • [showing a clip of Trump storming off stage] “Do you want a president that runs away when things get difficult or do you want a leader?” [cut to Harris dominating the debate]

Edit: typo

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Zero chance. I’m sorry. But he will not call her that to her face. He will say something unhinged for sure. But saying either of those things is far fetched.

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I wonder if it’s to hopefully get him to demand they be muted. Like she’s baiting him to do it.

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I think it’s because she knows he’ll say some outlandish shit when it’s muted and she wants to make sure that when he forgets that he has a live mic, it’s all on tape.

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28 points

yup. basically she wants his crazy on full display.

I’m not sure it’ll work in her favor, but, uh. it’s one way to counter the gish gallop. Just hand them the mic and then mock them later for being a lunatic.

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It’s actually the best way to handle the Gish Gallop… Let them keep talking.

Wait for them to say something truly outlandish. Respond by calling out their Gish Gallop, say that you’re only going to respond to the one thing so as to remain focused in the face of their gish gallop, and knock it out of the park.

Let him throw you meatballs until you find your pitch.

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6 points

Yeah, that’s the strategy of the media ever since he came down that stupid gold escalator in 2015. So far, hanging on his every word has only helped him.

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4 points

Actually I heard this was happening with the Biden debate. No wonder he looked confused when an idiot is standing next to you screaming. I have to say, I hadn’t considered that issue before.

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That’s the only way it’s a good idea. Otherwise, he’ll just keep interrupting her throughout the whole thing and she won’t be able to get a word in edgewise.

Yes she’s a former prosecutor and thus used to argue for a living but that was a) a long time ago and b) in a highly regulated setting where there’s serious consequences for breaking decorum.

In a “debate” on a for-profit yellow media outlet, he’s not going to be held in check by the moderator(s) or anyone else and even though most if not all of his blathering is going to be lies, he’s likely going to win by default for being “high energy” or whatever bullshit the corrupt pundit class comes up with to spin his lunacy and childish bullying as a show of strength.

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That’s how it read to me:

“The VP is ready to debate Trump live and uncensored,” Harris’ advisor Brian Fallon wrote on X on Monday. “Trump should stop hiding behind the mute button.”

Fallon suggested that Trump’s campaign would not agree to that condition, writing that Trump “should reject his handlers’ attempts to muzzle him via a muted microphone.”

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6 points

That’s already what the Trump team is demanding. They want to have mics muted because they realized how much better it made Trump look at the Biden debate.

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there’s no way he would do that. that goes against every fiber of his being.

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Muted mics make him look like he’s being civil and letting Harris talk.

Hot mic presents two interesting possibilities:

  1. He tries on his “low IQ” and “she suddenly decided to be black” attack lines and Harris calls him out so he looks like a fucking asshole to the average voter.

  2. He DOESNT try on his “low IQ” and “she suddenly decided to be black” attack lines and Harris calls back to her “say it to my face” line and paints him as a weak coward for the rest of the campaign.

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And number 3, just treat him like the child he is.

Behold

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tXFqTGBty1w

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10 points

I have beheld it. Beauty

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That link did not disappoint.

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53 points

What happens if he just doesn’t stop talking when his turn is over? I thought that was a lesson learned from 2016 or something

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Trump has cognitively declined since 2016 and is increasingly incoherent and nasty. I think the Dems are gambling that many voters aren’t watching his stump appearances so this is a good way to expose him to voters.

I think its too big a gamble and mute him. I think he will expose himself enough on his own turns to speak.

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I just hope none of this is being planned with the idea that it’ll change the opinion of his most ardent supporters, because he’s said a lot of incoherent and nasty things, and it doesn’t appear to have hurt his chances. Hell, those most negatively impacted by his policies are lining up to vote for him again, to “save” the nation. What are words in the face of that?

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In the margins are people who will peel away and at least stay home. The people who haven’t seen him speak but think they like him based on the curated perspective from Fox News, etc. there are people who will listen to him unfiltered for the first time in a few years and it will be the last straw.

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yeah i think muting is the only way to get a half-way decent debate

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Came here to say this. How will they shut him up? The people who came to hear him talk will want to hear his word salad gospel, no matter how long he yammers for. She won’t be able to get a word in.

And based on what happened with Hillary Clinton, there should also perhaps be a demand that he stay put at his lectern and not be allowed to walk around the stage/behind her…

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Harris isn’t a smug elitist nor a doddering old fool. She’ll cut him off and dress him down.

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I think how poorly his recent ramblings have gone… That’s exactly what they’re hoping for.

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The more he talks, the less time they will have to ask questions and the less likely foreign policy will come up in an environment where “shut up” isn’t met with cheers.

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