206 points

How the fuck can Elon Musk claim to be a Trekkie? When he is against everything Star Trek stands for?!
The psychological dissonance of that man is insane!

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160 points

He also claims to love the Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, a book series where technology corporations are absolutely loathed and every AI is either a broken or an asshole or both.

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72 points

'The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as: “A bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.” ’

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Curiously, an edition of the Encyclopedia Galactica which fell through a rift in the time-space continuum from 1000 years in the future describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as: “A bunch of mindless jerks who were the first against the wall when the revolution came.”

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2 points

Share and enjoy

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30 points

And I think he has endorsed The Culture books, which also is kinda Startrek on steroids. Omg that universe is amazing.

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24 points

Given Musk’s prejudices, that surprises me – especially since in The Culture being transgender is extremely uncontroversial. (Hell, even the spacecraft are permitted to determine their roles and choose their own names; meanwhile Musk is desperately trying to wrench Grok into his own image.)

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23 points

He also said the Cybertruck is “what Bladerunner would drive”.

he doesn’t actually know a fucking thing about sci-fi.

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14 points

Musk would definitely be the guy operating a digital hell for everyone who buys his neural backup products and doesn’t pay a monthly fee to opt out.

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14 points

Ah yes, that too.

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13 points

Meanwhile his old friend from PayPal seems to have a thing for the villains from The Lord of the Rings universe.

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6 points

I wonder if he ever read the 5th book, Mostly Harmless. In that book there’s an aside which describes how the people of the planet Golgafrincham tricked all the useless members of their society (management consultants, etc) into thinking the planet was doomed and getting on a ship to escape the planet which they programmed to fly to another salary system and crash into one of the planets there. That part of the book always stuck with me, and more and more I wish there was a way we could do the same to Musk and his billionaire cronies.

Of course I don’t think Musk has actually read any of the HHGTTG novels, especially not the 5th one so maybe there’s still a chance?

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3 points

Those people ended up dying because the people they got rid of had a use after all, though.

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4 points

$10 says he loves the wiki brief of the mos def version.

Or he claimed to be hugely into trek and hhgttg to fit in when in uni and now can’t untangle himself from the lie without an ego blow

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7 points

The more he says about these things, the less I’m convinced he’s ever watched an episode of Star Trek or any version of HHGTTG. He also thought that Harrison Ford’s character in Blade Runner was named Bladerunner.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-main-character-blade-runner

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4 points

I think he likes it because he identifies with the tech corpos and wants to bring that piece of it, complete with shit broken AI to life

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45 points

What I think is that because they are incapable of empathetic thought, the message gets lost.

TNG’s Time’s Arrow, DS9’s Past Tense, VOY’s Life Line are all just made up stories to them. No human condition there.

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19 points

I think this is indeed it, unfortunately.

To such sociopaths incapable of empathetic thought, Star Trek is awesome because future and technology and winning battles. So if you’re a tech bro and you’re winning (money) and pushing technology forward regardless of the costs, and everybody knows who you are because of it, well then you must be an awesome human that’s winning at life! Because obviously good life = victorious life.

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34 points

It’s a common theme. There are a lot of conservatives who are still somehow fans of Star Trek because they the lack media literacy needed to figure out that they’re values are not shared by the good guys on the show.

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20 points

Remember how conservatives think that Rage Against The Machine is on their side. There’s no delusion too great after that.

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10 points

It’s not deusion. It’s a cooption narrative. ‘All the cool things came from us!’ Because they don’t create anything of worth of their own

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7 points

It’s not about values, it’s about image and symbolism. And the fact that a white dude got to go all over the universe telling aliens they’re wrong and they need to accept the American… uhhm Federation way!

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7 points

Yep. The whole utopian future of Star Trek is mostly off-screen. They talk about how they don’t need money anymore and have abolished hunger, etc. but we never see that in the actual episodes. What we do see is people who are absolutely certain that their way of life is superior to everyone else’s, that the status quo must not be questioned and that the military represents the pinnacle of society.

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25 points

I think he didn’t really get that “Picard gets a neurological link to the Borg” == “not good”…

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14 points

Imagine he’s developing the Neurolink because he thought it was good.

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10 points

To be fair there would be some interesting consequences to a hive mind, it’s almost like having perfect empathy. You would have no desire to harm anyone else, because you’d be literally harming yourself.

I was hoping the plot in Picard was going to kinda go this route, and just like the Borg were in part a critique of Soviet communism, it could have presented a more anarchism inspired idealistic version of communism framing a queen-less Borg collective as a perfect consensus-building cooperative community.

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2 points

I would happily be in a hive mind if there was the option to leave it whenever I wanted and if the technology was safe.

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19 points

The same way so many idiot fans seem to think star trek is “too woke” now lol

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7 points

…I’m sorry?

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8 points

It’s a thing repubs said when we got a black female captain (who btw has had the best captain arc since Picard.

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7 points

You don’t have to apologize. It’s ok.

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2 points

Why are you sorry

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16 points

I dunno. Hang out around Trekkies and you can meet some real knuckleheads. People who seem to have missed the whole point.

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6 points

I think the closest thing Elon is to Star Trek would be a Romulan/Ferengi hybrid wannabe. Dreaming of having a star ship to manipulate, conquer and extort the galaxy.

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He’s TOS Star Trek. Be a cowboy, cheat and be venerated for it, white man is in charge.

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That is not TOS. That is a person like Elon’s idea of TOS. I grew up on TOS before any other Star Trek existed. It helped shape my values- made me cherish ideas like inclusion and diversity and equality. It also helped teach me to talk things out rather than just come in guns blazing.

Yes, there was a cowboy element to TOS considering Gene sold it to executives as “Wagon Train to the stars,” but it doesn’t have the typical morality of a Western. At all.

In fact, if you want to talk specifically about indigenous Americans, the episode The Paradise Syndrome had a far more positive view of them than pretty much anything else on TV at the time.

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17 points

For real, that’s SNL Star Trek. The surface parody of the show based solely on a handful of Kirk’s more outrageous exploits. Real Trek fans know that Kirk was a total nerd who read classic literature and studied old Earth history for fun.

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10 points

People (Elon) see what they want to see.

Cowboy in this sense is not a good thing. It’s the do whatever the fuck I want to thing.

cowboy /kou′boi″/

A reckless person, such as a driver, pilot, or manager, who ignores potential risks.

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1 point

Bub, trek was revolutionary for its time, and in some parts still is. But it is going to age as we advance, and that’s not a bad thing - we want to progress to and past that

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25 points

TOS had the same basic values, even if they weren’t quite as refined.

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24 points

The show from the 60s with a black female bridge officer who was part of television’s first interracial kiss? The one with the utopian society where race and religion were unimportant, people worked as they were able to benefit society without capital, and episodes centered on things like the silliness of prejudice and hoarding wealth?

The one where the greatest villain was a 20th century human who had tried to establish a stratified society based on genetic superiority?

That show?

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I agree with your point, but FYI that was far from television’s first interracial kiss. The BBC in the UK has them beat by 14 years on that one (British man and Maori kissing).

If you specifically mean black/white kiss, then the BBC in the UK again would take it, this time 13 years earlier, when a black man repeatedly kissed a white woman in a screening of Shakespeare’s Othello.

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123 points

Musk wants the Terran Empire, not the Federation

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26 points

His profile picture does depict him wearing armor after all

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24 points

People fail to realize that we’re in the mirror universe and the universe Star Trek exists in is the unattainable utopia.

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I mean the Bell Riots happen in 2024 in the Prime Timeline. The 21st century sucks in Star Trek. Eugenics wars, Sanctuary Districts, WWIII, fascist dictatorships using soldiers addicted to drugs…

It’s only after a nuclear holocaust that humanity is reborn into their “hopeful era”. I mean hell, they literally had to retcon the timeline because the 90s weren’t actually as awful as the show claimed and they had to move the Eugenics Wars. The 21st century is dark in the Prime Timeline, and it’s fully believable that it was just as bad as our real 21st century or worse.

So no, as easy as it is to cave to doomerism, I think the message of Star Trek is that this too shall pass. Stuff sucks, no doubt, the world is in a dark place right now, but that doesn’t mean it will stay that way.

I like to rewatch DS9: “Past Tense” sometimes because it really hits home how bad things are, but also gives hope for how maybe there’s a future in which we look back and wonder how things got this bad.

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6 points

[Section 31 has entered chat]

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10 points

Does that mean Musk is a decent human being in the Mirror Universe?

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23 points

he COMES from the Mrirror Universe.

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16 points

Guess he killed the presumably nice Musk that was already here.

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8 points

Yeah it’s pretty clear this is a

ST:Disco spoiler

Lorca situation

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97 points

Robert Picardo is great

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27 points

Robert Picardo is an absolute treasure.

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19 points

So I hate to tell you this, but I’m pretty sure Robert Picardo is a hologram…

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16 points

Sure, but he’s made of “hard light”, if you get my drift 😏

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6 points

What are you trying to say? That a hologram is not a person but a mere tool?

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11 points

“If Picard can baldly go where no one has gone before, then why not Picardo?”

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9 points

I’ve had a man crush on him for decades now.

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9 points

What a fucking beauty. Isn’t Robert Picardo just a fucking beauty?

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I hadn’t seen Innerspace in forever, and I was delighted when I watched it recently and he popped up in a cowboy costume and a Russian accent.

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6 points

Love that voice

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4 points

I’ve wondered why he said yes to a bit role in Atlas Shrugged, but I guess everyone needs work.

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68 points

fucking poser. every piece of media you claim to love is a protest to your entire existence.

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Haha guys I too love what you like! Such shows as: (small faction of desperate yet brave people breaking out of their dystopic society) I very much like (main character)!!

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66 points

Second step: abolish capitalism, and by extension billionaires, and give everyone free healthcare and education.

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9 points

Don’t forget, food and shelter. Pretty sure that was free too

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4 points

(Who downvotes this?)

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4 points

Delusional temporarily embarrassed millionaires and billionaires.

Don’t mind their working class appearances at the moment, they’ll get a lucky break and be set back to their high status.

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