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Yes that’s unsurprising and yes he’s probably a bad person, but also I feel the need to say that’s a really shitty thing to do to him. Even shitty people deserve to not be targeted by racist remarks.

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no, they do.

They are enabling the racists to be further empowered to take further racist actions that effect other people. They deserve the same racism they’re enabling to happen to them.

The guy’s an uncle tom. if you think that’s a shitty, racist thing to say

  1. He deserves it

  2. Maybe I should call him an uncle ruckus instead.

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I think there’s a worthwhile distinction between somebody “deserving” a consequence, versus having it coming because they (wholly or partially) brought it upon themselves.

The classic example is drunk driving. We don’t execute people for it, nor should we. But when somebody is hammered and runs into a tree at 2x the speed limit, they kind of had that coming even though it IS still a tragedy. We look at the silver lining that at least they didn’t take any innocents with them.

In this case, of course the racism is bad and shameful, and it’s the same assholes doing it. It should not be happening. But when the already-existing racists get help from one of the very people they’re trying to marginalize… I mean this is exactly the kind of crap the leopards eating faces meme was created for. I shouldn’t need to explain the absurdity, lol.

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Kind of but let’s say:

Someone offered you to fight a bear for $5k.

He assures you the bear is safe.

People around you tell you it’s not, and don’t be an idiot.

Is it your fault if you chose to take the con man’s offer and fight the bear or the con man’s fault?

I started thinking about this after the titanic submarine disaster. Like, how is that not like a Darwin Award?

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The difference is that racists are not bears. They’re people behaving poorly. I think this is better compared to a thief getting robbed by his partner in crime. Is he a fool? Yes. Is he a bad person? Yes. Can I blame his partner in crime for this? Also yes. In both cases it’s an idiot and a bad person walking into a position that another person behaved poorly towards them.

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So what it comes down to is:

Are bigots and racists more like a bear that is obviously hazardous, or are they like your friend that betrays you.

I truly believe they are more like the first one if you just listen and think about the things they constantly say. But maybe that takes more critical thinking than I should expect from the average person.

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Perhaps he will realize that his entire organization is filled with shitty people… nah

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Giving this guy the benefit of the doubt, he probably just wanted a job, and hated every minute of it.

When someone called him a slave it provided him with a lucrative exit, and an opportunity to kick their bigoted asses on the way out the door.

The AFP will settle with him to shut him up. It will be at the very least several months worth of work.

Shit is tough out there guys.

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You should’ve read the article. The guy is an avid and active Trump supporter and believed in the cause he worked for. Literally the first 5 words in the article are “A die-hard Trumper in Florida…”

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I did read the article. It presents a narrative which isn’t necessarily true.

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I think it’s possible he was genuinely an actual Trump supporter, and now he realized that a lot of Trump fans are actually racist. What a big surprise.

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I never expected leopards to eat MY face!

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