Trump can have one more felony, as a treat

248 points

I’m so glad he pissed off the army before trying to stage his second coup.

Good luck asshat.

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99 points

He pissed off the 60% of the army who already knew what a disgusting failure of a human he is.

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61 points

The US military is aggressively non-political. Don’t count on them to do anything as long as the civilian institutions do nothing.

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24 points

Which kinda sucks, but it’s actually a good thing.

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22 points

That’s not the point. The Military is no longer a tool he could use. Staying neutral unless things get really bad is a good thing. He’s already tried to use the military against protestors. (And the military told him to pound sand)

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Am I crazy? I distinctly remember a military helicopter hovering quite low over protesters in a city and that very much didn’t feel like them telling trump to ‘pound sand’

Yeah, not crazy: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/pentagon-national-guard-helicopter-dc-protests/index.html

I appreciate the army’s attempts at trying to stay neutral but from my perspective they were already complicit in the trump regime and I have no faith that they would be any different if he gets another shot.

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5 points

What about “foreign and domestic”?

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9 points

Just means they can be deployed against traitors, not that they have the authority, or consider themselves to have the authority, to make the judgement on who is and is not traitorous.

Civilian control of the military is a good thing. But it also means that any thought of the military as a safeguard against any tyranny that worms its way in through civilian institutions is… misguided.

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37 points

He’s gonna try having the police arrest the military

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8 points

I’ll get the popcorn, you get the butter sauce?

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3 points

“butter sauce” makes me uncomfortable.

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30 points

I don’t really have much hope for this. People have short memories

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6 points

But Trump can’t go a day without showing his ass for attention. Without rose colored glasses dismissing the things he does he will remind them consistently how much he doesn’t care about soldiers.

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128 points

Honestly, those families of fallen soldiers can go fuck themselves. They dishonor the memory of their children that made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. They don’t get to invite Trump to wipe his ass all over the graves of soldiers. Their children deserve respect, but they deserve scorn.

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This was my thought as well. Can you really have loved your family member if you sell them cheaply to be used as political fodder? Is that what their memory is worth to you?

This is the same level of disaffection that you saw from the pa firefighter widow who wouldn’t accept a phone call from Biden.

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47 points

Oh, it’s even worse than that. My understanding is that the families that invited him are specifically families of soldiers who died during the pullout from Afghanistan. Y’know, the pullout that Trump announced out of the blue with zero prep work in the last year of his presidency and dumped on Biden’s lap. They are celebrating the man directly responsible for their kids’ deaths.

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7 points

Democrats desperately need to impose a nationwide public school curriculum if/when they get control. This shit needs to stop, and it’s going to take literal decades to correctly educate the next generation…

Lately I have started to grasp why nations, in the past, have imposed “re-education” upon their adult citizens… Obviously it can easily be misused, but I feel like it is exactly what this country needs. And it will never happen.

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Those children made " the ultimate sacrifice " to expand and maintain American imperialism and violence worldwide. Just because we hate trump there is no reason to defend the American empire and its willing enforcers.

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Ok, I’m not going to debate that with you. I don’t know these kids, their motivations, their missions, or how they lived and died. I’m talking about every body laid to rest in Arlington, and far too many that still lay where they fell, all of the soldiers, living and dead, are deserving of a certain modicum of reapect. They deserve to not be used as props in a campaign photo. Their families deserve to not see their tombstones used as an arm rest in a photo op.

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16 points

I would be horrified if someone asked to visit my parents’ grave for a photo op. I can barely go there without breaking down. My family’s grief is private.

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Oh yes all those soldiers from, (checks notes), fighting the Nazis and Japanese.

Yeah them. Horrible people, the absolute worst amiright?

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This incident was with the parents of people in section 60 specifically for people dying post 9-11 “War on terror” soldiers. Stop obfuscating.

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imperialism = defending women’s right everywhere, including in Afghanistan?

I think I might actually be an imperialist!

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Afghanistan may be among the most humanitarian deployments the US military has done. The infant mortality rate fell significantly while the US was there, and women had the freedom to go to school and participate in the economy without violent oppression.

Our mistake in Afghanistan was that we didn’t build a lasting change. We gave arms to the wrong people. We should’ve been training and arming the women to fight back and protect their democracy. Not men who were going to be fine either way.

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77 points

Everyone posting quotes from the trump side, so here’s what the Army said:

“This incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked. ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the Armed Forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation’s fallen deserve,” the statement said.

So the Army sided with the people at the cemetery, and tge following paragraphs indicate the Pentagon does as well.

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Barely… They don’t even condemn the people who did it. They say it was “unfortunate.” Give me a fucking break.

Imagine if this was a Democrat.

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13 points

The US military is very apolitical. They don’t get involved with campaigns or politics. I think it may actually be illegal for an active serviceman to make statements with any political leanings. Certainly in uniform I think.

So for them to say this much is actually a big deal.

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5 points

Agreed. It even says in the article that the army stays out of politics and such a statement was a very rare occurrence. So we can infer the fact that they made a statement at all carries quite a bit of weight.

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1 point

Let’s see how “apolitical” works when fascists are running the country.

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7 points

their campaign would have ended and you’d still be hearing about it in 2028

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76 points

I’m just exhausted at this point. Nothing he does phases me anymore. Just gotta say my piece at the ballot box and hope for the best

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43 points

I’m actually impressed a former president currently running for reelection managed to fuck up pandering to the military so bad the Army called him out for it.

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22 points

Normalization of this shit is how the fascists get a foothold. In this very story we see that the victim is not pressing charges because she is afraid of MAGAfash. The absolute minimum thing you can do is stay angry. Enjoy passive opposition while it is still an option.

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4 points

Guess I just can’t handle the minimum, then. My mental health is shot man, I need a break.

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the victim is not pressing charges because she is afraid of MAGAfash

Does she say this or are we making it up?

Seems like she’s not making a big deal out of it because she’s in the army and someone shoving her a bit while rude isn’t a big issue in her day?

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6 points

I’m just exhausted at this point. Nothing he does phases me anymore.

Yup. There’s no point caring, he’s a broken record of hatred. Just move on.

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3 points

Yeah I’m so fucking tired of watching him break federal law out in the open with zero consequences over and over and over and over

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“For a despicable individual to physically prevent President Trump’s team from accompanying him to this solemn event is a disgrace and does not deserve to represent the hollowed [sic] grounds of Arlington National Cemetery. Whoever this individual is spreading these lies are dishonoring the men and women of our armed forces, and they are disrespecting everyone who paid the price for defending our country,” LaCivita continued.

Wow. Just a fucking gross response. Every chance they get they try to insult the person who was doing their job.

“We had given our approval for President Trump’s official videographer and photographer to attend the event, ensuring these sacred moments of remembrance were respectfully captured and so we can cherish these memories forever,” the families said.

His idiot followers would think their invitation bests federal laws.

A different article said that the reason the beleaguered employee wasn’t pressing charges was fear of harassment by his sycophants. His toadies make life hell for descent people, thus shielding him from repercussions. It’s time to put this man out of the spotlight so the wheels of justice can run him over.

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It’s sobering to think about how far US politics has fallen since I’ve had the power to vote. There was a time that I can still remember, where something like this would do more than kill a campaign. Republicans would be condemning their own candidate, and the candidate’s PR team would be working overtime putting out, “we apologize for the misunderstanding and meant no disrespect to the fallen soldiers” statements to try to quell the backlash.

Nowadays? Nope. They double and triple down, and their base loves it. I hate this so much.

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I cast my first vote in 1990. It was the first and last time I ever voted for a Republican. Please forgive me. I was eighteen and raised under Reagan. I didn’t yet know better.

Anywho, I concur with your assessment. We’ve fallen so very far.

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11 points

descent people

Second time in the last few days I see that particular typo. It’s “decent”. Please.

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13 points

…no, staff must descend into the hollowed grounds…

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9 points

I dunno have you seen the movie The Descent? I could see the cave dwellers in that movie being cousins to the MAGA crowd. Great low budget horror flick btw. Skip the sequel.

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2 points

No, but I’ve watched Disneys Descendants. A bunch of villain’s kids get to go to school after being cut off from society all their lives due to their parents choices. The kids come in to school dedicated to evil, but the more they learn & get to know people, the more they all decide to be good people.

I have no idea how that relates to anything in the real world in the past however many years.

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3 points

An understandable Freudian slurp.

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Yep, you’re right. I caught it when re-reading my post to contextualize a reply, though it’s been too late to edit without being dishonest. I hold myself highly accountable for mistakes and that’s one of them. Thanks for pointing it out.

I also like the Oxford Comma and a proper ellipses…

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2 points

It was more of an emotion than pointing something out, I hated autocomplete too when it was a new thing and would suggest nonsense half of the time. =\

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1 point

It means they are descended from decent people.

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