[D.N.A] Elasticsearch and Kibana can be called Open Source again. It is hard to express how happy this statement makes me. Literally jumping up and down with excitement here. All of us at Elastic are. Open source is in my DNA. It is in Elastic DNA. Being able to call Elasticsearch Open Source again is pure joy.

[LOVE.] The tl;dr is that we will be adding AGPL as another license option next to ELv2 and SSPL in the coming weeks. We never stopped believing and behaving like an open source community after we changed the license. But being able to use the term Open Source, by using AGPL, an OSI approved license, removes any questions, or fud, people might have.

[Not Like Us] We never stopped believing in Open Source at Elastic. I never stopped believing in Open Source. I’m going on 25 years and counting as a true believer. So why the change 3 years ago? We had issues with AWS and the market confusion their offering was causing. So after trying all the other options we could think of, we changed the license, knowing it would result in a fork of Elasticsearch with a different name and a different trajectory. It’s a long story.

36 points

Someone got cold feet, as it seems. I guess OpenSearch started to eat their lunch.

My guess: The reputation is already ruined and this change won’t make much of a difference.

permalink
report
reply
4 points

Yeah, most software has probably already migrated to OpenSearch

permalink
report
parent
reply
23 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
reply
12 points

I don’t follow. ElasticSearch was only available under proprietary source-available licenses. Now, it’s also available under the AGPL, which is open source, meaning ElasticSearch is now open source software. What part of this is deceptive or contradictory?

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points
*

Do you… not know how multi-licensing works? You can use the project’s code under the terms of whichever license you prefer, you don’t use all three at once. Simply putting the AGPLv3 does remove unfair restrictions, because it means you don’t have to use either of the proprietary licenses the project was previously only available under.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

And which parts does the AGPL violate? Because that’s what the article is about: it becoming available under the AGPL.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

So source available. Not open source. Got it!

permalink
report
parent
reply
19 points

Isn’t that the point of the article? It’s not open-source currently, but will be, once the AGPL option is added.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points
*

But Shay was so excited.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

I think you are confused. You can use ELK under AGPL with this news going forward. The fact that they have to retain SSPL, too, because of previous contributors under that license, has nothing to do with the fact that you can use AGPL going forward. I’ve read your other responses,but they all seem to go down the same seemingly incorrect direction.

Am I missing something?

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

So anyway.

OpenSearch is the new hotness.

Damage Is Done.

permalink
report
reply
12 points

Cool, now drop the CLAs and we’re good.

permalink
report
reply
3 points

non-reply reply lol

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

haha no.

permalink
report
reply

Open Source

!opensource@lemmy.ml

Create post

All about open source! Feel free to ask questions, and share news, and interesting stuff!

Useful Links

Rules

  • Posts must be relevant to the open source ideology
  • No NSFW content
  • No hate speech, bigotry, etc

Related Communities

Community icon from opensource.org, but we are not affiliated with them.

Community stats

  • 4.7K

    Monthly active users

  • 1.8K

    Posts

  • 30K

    Comments