76 points

I’ve bought and paid for every civ game since civ3…

I even paid for civ4 twice. Boxed CD and on steam… And now you’re going to treat me like a criminal with shitty DRM??? Welp, i guess i’m not buying Civ7, Sid…

No more turns…

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63 points

DRM has never stopped me from pirating a game, but multiple times it stopped me from buying it.

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I mean, it literally stops you from pirating uncracked games.

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34 points

until they are inevitably cracked (which has been done with many denuvo games already) and pirates enjoy better performance once again.

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-2 points

That’s the (unknown) future. But currently they are not cracked. Hence you can’t pirate them.

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I used to pirate back in the day and the fact that you no longer had updates or fixes was a huge issue. It’s actually the number one reason I no longer pirate games. It’s not worth my time or frustration to deal with a virus, bad crack or crashing game. Also since I stopped pirating I’ve had exactly 0 malware/trojan infections.

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Name 3 uncracked games.

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I’ll name you 10: Street Fighter 6, Star Wars Squadrons, Star Wars jedi survivor, Persona 3 Reloaded, Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown, Like A Dragon Gaiden - The Man Who Erased His Name Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora Persona 5 Tactica Dragon’s Dogma 2 Assassins Creed Mirage

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The only one I know is Street Fighter 6 (over a year after release too) but I’m sure there’s at least two others. Your point is made, however.

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Far Cry 6, Nier: Replicant, RE Village, Hogwarts Legacy, etc. Source: https://gamerswiki.net/has-any-denuvo-game-been-cracked/

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45 points

Better pick the correct Proton version from the get-go then Linux users, switching it more than 4-5 times within 24 hours or so will trigger Denuvo blocking the game from starting.

Or just don’t buy this crap :)

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6 points

is this intended from denuvo’s side?

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6 points

Probably not. I assume it registers it as different systems and blocks after too many.

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40 points

As a Linux user, Civ 6 post launch support made me swear off of buying a 2k game ever again. Linux users got an objectively worse version of the game, and the fact they couldn’t be bothered to add the 2k account exclusive leader to the Linux version shows they really don’t care about customer loyalty. Rumors also say this game won’t support mods, which is insane, as mods made Civ 6 playable with an actually functional UI. It’s a shame, as I love the Civ series.

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I’ve started playing with proton. Many say it users the GPU better and you gets better graphics but I didn’t notice anything.

What it changed is that Linux version is like many years without updates, but with proton you have the windows version which is compatible with all mods and let’s you run game of the month.

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5 points

For the mods at least, the dev interview at PAX clearly had a moment when one guy said "the possibilities of combination with civilizations switching is going to be higher, especially with the modding community adding custom civs.

But since they said a huge part of the playerbase is console, I’m guessing mods won’t be using the steam workshop but the launcher so that consoles can have mods…

As for Linux support yeah I would like to hope, maybe the stats of Civ6 on the steamdeck could push them to make it compatible but if they have denuvo I doubt it…

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I’m guessing mods won’t be using the steam workshop but the launcher so that consoles can have mods…

Civ 7 won’t be using the 2k launcher. They announced that when they removed it from civ 6.

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-3 points

lol.

What in the history of electronic entertainment makes you think that they’re done with doing the shitty thing now that they stopped doing it once?

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37 points

Sometimes I wonder why companies make decisions like this. But then I remember just how many completely braindead executives are out there.

At least it’s not denuvo anti cheat but their anti tamper is bad enough. Civ 6 is my most played game and I guess I’ll have more time to play it now after all… It’s really too bad I was very excited to try out the new features they’ve added.

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5 points

If you like the new features you can always just go ahead and play some Endless Legends, most of it is from there

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Endless legend is undoubtedly a great game but I never liked the hero thing they have going on unfortunately.

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2 points

Well Civ 7 will be very similar with the generals, what I didnt like personally was managing the items for the units and stuff

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You might want to try Humankind then. Sounds like Civ 7 is basically copying the ideas from it anyway

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I’ve played humankind quite a bit actually. I had fun for a while but although I liked the idea at first I don’t love the leader switching system as it is implemented in humankind.

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