And unfortunately lemmy.ml is getting more online traffic recently.
… You’re on lemmy.world lol 😭
I set my feed for all instances to appear. Despite the reputation of lemmy.ml, it’s been gaining traction recently.
My brother in Mācuīltōchtl, lemmy.ml is run by the maintainers of Lemmy and was established years before Lemmy.World.
Lemmy.World has been gaining traction recently, not the other way around.
Now that you mentioned it, you could be right. I do know that many r/ChapoTrapHouse users from Reddit migrated to Lemmy after the subreddit got banned for incitement to violence. They may fled to lemmy.ml and I didn’t realise that the instance is much older.
The lemmy vegan community is toxic and is just self-selecting with the rest of the poison.
That’s great. Maybe it will open space for a good community to form.
With how .world mods treated them recently and how .world users interacted with that community generally, even .ml and hexbear look better. Not a great look for .world
Any part of any discussion that verges into criticizing Russia or China gets removed by either mods or passing site admins.
Any comment that is anti-the-West gets a pass no matter how uncivil, inflamatory or dishonest it is.
This only happens on worldnews@lemmy.ml
A few others also. Like memes. https://lemmy.world/post/19190223
It happens across the whole instance, it’s an admin level problem. My favorite is when you say something critical of the site admins, Russia, or China and get not only the comment removed, and not just banned from that community, but any other community the particular user moderates
Imagine being that petty- someone disagrees with your chosen political stance, so you go community by community and ban them from every one to protect your fee fees.
Think I’m blowing smoke? See for yourself.
Mostly militant tankie mods in worldnews@lemmy.ml. The rest of the instance is fine actually; Their admins aren’t as zealous.
The admins are actually pretty chill. They leave the moderation to the mods. That can be really good or really bad.
It is decently well know that they are communist. They don’t go around forcing there views on others though. I respect them for that.
If the discussion is good, what is the problem? Genuine question.
Lemmy.ml is run by people who spread authoritarian propaganda, most likely the CCP. It’s a real stain on Lemmy and people shouldn’t support or legitimize it in any way.
Spend some time browsing through the instances communities.
It is well known that that both the main devs of Lemmy (whose home instance is Lemmy.ml) are communists socialists who side with the ideals of China (CCP). Also, it may be less known that the .ml is short for Marxist/Leninist or Marx/Lenin. Either way, it’s a hat tip to communism socialism.
They are known for being heavy-handed with post/comment removal and bans of opposing views of any kind. Viewing their mod log would attest to that.
“most likely” it’s an opinion, so evidence not required.
If they said “it is run by ccp” then you may have a point.
Don’t play sophist games.
Seriously, that’s buck wild. I hope they meant “they support the CCP”, which isn’t a stretch given the various Soviet-era iconography in the profiles of its maintainers (Mao, Castro, Gagarin, etc.), and not “they’re acting on behalf of the CCP”, which is such a ridiculous claim to make with no further substantiation.
What kind of source can I offer? Photocopies of internal CCP propaganda documents? This isn’t the kind of thing you can link to a research journal to prove.
The CCP has always relied heavily on propaganda, and is obviously investing on it internationally with things like Tik Tok.
The Fediverse is an easy, easy target. They run their own instance and set their own rules, and there’s absolutely no budget and basically no coordination whatsoever to counter disinformation.
Exhibit A of the original dev’s moderation style
Fuck that guy, best thing he did was make Lemmy open source so it can grow beyond their tiny little world view
Some people get really bent out of shape that not every instance is exactly the same as lemmy.world, cheer-leading for the exact same worldview. They are intellectually brittle and emotionally weak, so when they don’t see the same group-think taking over somewhere they can’t control they need to post something like “BUT WE ALL HATE THEM OVER THERE, RIGHT FELLAS?! WE GOOD, THEM BAD! LET’S DE-FEDERATE!”
It’s not a good discussion when they ban you in the middle of it for saying NATO is a defensive alliance.
Its fair game because my comment got removed on lemmy.world for criticizing Israel.
Sounds like a challenge!
NATO is a defensive alliance and the Israeli government is filled with war criminals who need to be thrown in the Hauge
Edit: To the instance-blocked guy who replied that “Thrown in the Hauge” has a weird energy:
Fine, I missed a capital letter. But also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague_Penitentiary_Institution
I said worse things about USSR history and I still comment on political LM posts when I feel like putting effort, and don’t even care about the instance if the subject is neutral. Their users did appreciate deeper digs in what it really was if I could produce some insights. The only user\mod I had problems with is y-tos, and I choose not to touch anything they write at all.
i feel like .ml is kind of hit or miss, some of the people on it are fine, some are just assholes, and some are just straight tankies. It’s a weird mix going on over there.
Sometimes it isn’t bad. For instance the privacy community is generally pretty good. However, there are some mods who have a “different” way of seeing things. They want the communities they mod to be propaganda machines.
I used to get annoyed but now I just move on to different communities. I will say that the admins of Lemmy.ml have gotten a lot more reasonable. They are still politically far left but they don’t force there views nearly as much. Its some of the mods that are the problem. I don’t care what they believe in but you shouldn’t remove something because it challenges your beliefs
They’re not far left. They’re China/Russia shills. Authoritarianism isn’t far left.
Because the discussion isn’t good, the instance admins themselves go from thread to thread removing anything that doesn’t agree with their chosen narrative of the week(subject to change according to the latest ccp talking points)
Because the discussion isn’t good…
Bro first line in the meme says “you see an amazing discussion”
I see this as an absolute win! The point of decentralized social media is that discussion happens across many different linked sites. It doesn’t work if lemmy.world is the only big site out there.
Sure have your beef with the admins of another server, but why get upset that discussions are happening there?
It’s important that one group of people should not be able to monopolize the discussion. I believe it’s important to the long-term health of the fediverse even if I don’t agree with some of those groups.
I agree there, but only if both sides of an argument are arguing in good faith. A lot of chucklenuts out there just want to start shit with bullshit arguments or to simply be contrarian. If one side is rational and using actual evidence while the other is blatantly pulling shit from their ass, that’s not good for anything.
It’s only really a problem when comments get removed or people get banned because they have opposing views.
Bans are fine IMO, I don’t want tankie shit clogging up my feed. I should be able to block those views and the admin should be allowed to block them from participating if they so choose.
The news@lemmyworld mods admins have been banning people for criticizing the MBFC bot, so yeah, let’s just keep using bans until this place looks like Reddit again.
Edit: mods, not admins
Pro palestinian comments get removed on lemmy.world. Some people have the same argument as you but about diametrically opposing idealogy
I have not had a single Pro-Palestinian comment get removed from world, and I’ve had some pretty confrontational conversations in support of Palestinians.
The real solution would be for the decentralization to be happening in the background and for the platform to be accessible from one website and to let users take care of their own feed themselves.
No, each instance can choose what instances it’s federated with so your experience in lazysoci.al can be completely different from mine on sh.itjust.works just like the experience of someone in beehaw or hexbear or Lemmy.world is completely different…
But then it’s centralized on one website and the person who owns that domain has control over the whole
They only have control in the sense that they can shut down the website, but the content itself isn’t in their control. It would also be possible to have the hosting under a decentralized entity controlled democratically by the people providing the hosting space (à la DAO/DAC in crypto).
Eh, it’s no lemmygrad
