I’m not sure it’s the “best” way, but it’s a solid alternative, and receives rapid updates when YouTube moves to break things.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/15571129

I’m using this all the time myself. There is no login to YouTube required and it supports adding subscriptions and doing everything important you can do on YouTube.

And the best part is no ads whatsoever.

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SmartTube is pretty great for android TV.

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Yaaa.

And I use Enhancer for YouTube™ on desktop Firefox on my Bazzite PC.

And Tubular on my Android phone.

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Switched to PipePipe because Tubular is not updated as quickly as Tubular, the dev said it’s not on the top of their list. Also PipePipe has some more features such as playing the video faster while you leaveea finger on the screen.

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I prefer PipePipe as well, it’s great It gets frequently updated.

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For people who are okay with using YT’s official frontend, I couldn’t recommend Enhancer for Youtube™ more.

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It’s annoying though that you can’t save videos to lists or subscribe to channels without logging in to youtube account.

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It’s using the YouTube API, so that makes sense. The developer likely wants to keep the app focused and reduce the amount of feature creep, hence reusing YouTube’s standard subscription and list systems rather than building their own. That’s also what the majority of users expect - if someone subscribes to a YouTube channel on one device, they’d expect to be subscribed to it on all devices.

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Just make a dummy account for only that if you don’t want to mix yours into YT

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Newpipe or Clipious also work on AndroidTV

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I use NewPipe on regular Android but read somewhere it wasn’t recommended to be used on Android TV because it wasn’t designed for it. If you vouch for it working fine then maybe I’ll try it.

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Other benefits:

  • Multiple subscription profiles, so you can organize your subscribed channels into groups. “I want to watch stuff about cars and motorcycles - I choose ‘Motoring.’”
  • SponsorBlock
  • No stupid recommendations to drag you into despair, hate watching, and misinformation.
  • Ability to never show shorts.

Downside:

  • Max 1080
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Seeing how I invested in an 144Hz monitor instead of a Hi-Res one, I see no issues here!

Will check it out!

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I still don’t think that I’ve ever seen a 4k image or video. plenty of morons out there sliding the quality up to 4k and going “Look at how good it looks!” whole I know full well their screen is at 1080 and I internally cringe.

But yeah, late 2024 and I’ve still never even seen a 4k screen to my knowledge.

At least not in person and not rebroadcast to a 1080 TV. So it doesn’t count.

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I still don’t think that I’ve ever seen a 4k image or video

Have you not watched a recent movie? Modern midrange to high-end TVs have been 4K for a while (eg my 2019 LG OLED is 4K) and it’s pretty common for movies to be released on 4K Blu-ray.

Good 4K looks great. Not the low-bitrate streams from services like Netflix, but the 60Mbps+ streams from Blu-ray remuxes (for example, via Real Debrid or downloaded via usenet) or from Blu-ray disks themselves.

You’ve definitely seen a 4K image. It’s equivalent to 8.3 megapixels, and good cameras have supported at least that resolution for a long time. Even the nearly 15-year-old Samsung Galaxy S2 had an 8MP camera.

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Sometimes the compression is not great, and 4k compressed on the fly might look visibly sharper then whatever 1080p version they offer. I’ve noticed this with YouTube videos sometimes.

That said, I’ve seen too many tech illiterate people go for 4k video not realising they also need a 4k screen. Or complaining their 4k console doesn’t look 4k, not realising the game also needs to output it

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You can add mpv to FreeTube as an external player. With yt-dlp, it supports playing YouTube videos directly and in any quality. It also has a plugin for SponsorBlock integration.

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Yeah, I use MPV as a external player and it’s great because you can highly customize the way you watch videos. I like equalize the sound and through a MPV script I save the video from cache with a keystroke if I liked it. Sadly watching with subtitles stopped working some weeks ago.

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There is also an Android fork which works amazingly well.

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is this on their git or fdroid by chance?

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I’m certainly concerned that now that this software has been covered in PopSci; that it will certainly suffer a needless onslaught of DMCA and other lawsuit-related shenanigans. >_>

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Out of curiosity, what’s is better about it than YouTube?

Vanilla YouTube is obvious, but I’ve got ublock origin , sponsor block and that thing that renames stuff to non click bait.

It all just works and I don’t get adds and I keep all my sub’s and still get useful suggestions.

On android i just use revanced.

So, what’s the pull of downloading a 3rd party for Linux / PC?

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For me it’s not just about ads, it’s also about surveillance. With FreeTube you can have subscriptions without needing a linked YouTube account, and all the subscription/watch history data is stored locally. So, it’s a good opt-out of Google/YouTube surveillance. And you can import/export subscriptions if you need to transfer to another device. I happen to use FreeTube for this because it is frequently updated and I like the setup, but other options exist - I’m not really promoting this option over other options, just raising some awareness about it.

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I’ve tried a few different front ends for fun in the past and they’re fun to tinker with, I’ll admit. I don’t think I used freetube.

Also it was some months ago, but the biggest issue I found was that I couldn’t sync watch lists. I could add subs and things but if I watched something on my phone, whatever front-end on my computer would tell me I still hadn’t watched that video and recommend it.

Is there a way around this? Because, that’s a huge deal breaker for me. As an end goal, I want less Google in my life, but there are certain inconveniences I am unwilling to tolerate (however seemingly small lol).

Anyway, I may start tinkering again soon. Thanks for the reply!

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I don’t think there’s currently a way to automatically sync watch history across devices, but I’d love to be wrong about that tbh, because it would be handy.

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@Flatworm7591 @y0kai all from above plus you have a full view of your subscriptions in chronological order and you can organize your subs how you want (per subject for exemple)

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that thing that renames stuff to non clickbait

Sounds like something I’d use, what is it called?

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Sorry, I’d have said the name initially, I’ve just got one of those brains that doesn’t always cooperate when it’s needed.

Anyway, it’s called “Dearrow” and it’s pretty cool. Check it out!

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Sweet suggestion, definitely adding this. Sick and tired of click bait titles.

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Cool, thanks!

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Grayjay and Freetube are both fine but different.

For some reason, Freetube currently works well, Grayjay needs iOS fallback and barely works.

Grayjay follows the bigger, already implemented idea of combining multiple platforms. This is a great UX and smooth fallback when Youtube blocks again, or permanently.

Accounts can link multiple platforms, so switching is easier.

It also allows commenting, livechat, on the platforms and has on the polycentric protocol, connecting all others.

Also, it has Sponsorblock integration.

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@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net I like GrayJay, even tho I find their integration of PeerTube quite lacking.

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Yes, I also dont understand why Peertube works so badly. It is one of the platforms with the most quality content, but its decentralization really makes it require an app.

sepiasearch.org helps here, to connect all instances and index them

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@boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net Same, PeerTube has so much good and interesting content, this content just doesn’t get exposure because of bad discoverability

@Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Freetube does have SponsorBlock and DeArrow integration as well.

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Oh cool didnt know that

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