“Trans-exclusionary radical feminist” for those who don’t know
A faschist with a red flag.
The term origenaly referred to lefties that supported the Soviet Union rolling tanks into nations protesting for democracy.
Modern tankies defend historical “communist” states and their successer states like Russia. They can often be seen glorifying dictators and denying genocides.
Well described, actually. And most of the tankies can be fought with actual knowledge of Marxism and socialism, since they try to pass themselves as all-so-knowledgeable of them and then spew the worst kind of misunderstandings of the socialist theories. Pseudo-intellectual edgy teenage-minded dumb-dumbs, in a nutshell
Authoritarian leftists. Stalinists, basically. The kind of people who look at protests being crushed by tanks and say “Good, those reactionary civilian pigs deserved it!”
Authoritarian Leftists seems to be an oxymoron
Edit: I meant sounds like; I’m super dumb lol. Thanks for educating me on what it actually means :)
I’m too tired and busy tonight to make a case here, but I would just point out that lemmy.world has defederated from anyone who can explain to you what a tankie believes and why, and you are only getting one side of the story in this thread.
I think most Americans who lived through the Iraq war are aware that America lies, but still not aware of the extent of it. The main targets of those lies are socialist states. When the intent of the lies is to make socialist states look monstrous, anyone who claims otherwise gets smeared with the same brush: a defender of monstrous states. It’s a rhetorical firewall.
If you want to know what tankies believe and why, you should ask them. Whether you find them persuasive or not, you’ll at least have learned what a subset of the human population believes and it will round out your perspective on the world.
The two main lemmy instances where you can find tankies are hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml. Hexbear is larger and more active, and their range of perspectives is a little broader because they include anarchists. Hexbear’s list of federated instances is here https://hexbear.net/instances, and lemmygrad’s is here https://lemmygrad.ml/instances.
criticizes US imperialism but defends Russian and Chinese imperialism
FTFY
Another thing they share in common: gaslighting queer people into forgetting their history.
What is their history? I am gay, that is just a random trait about me, it doesn’t make me connected to or part of the same group as other gender/sexual minorities- including other gay people. I oppose attacks on gay people, but I also oppose attacks on other minorities, I’m not somehow connected to them just because I happen to share an arbitrary trait that was the motive of the attack. My history is my life, not the life of my parents, or grandparents, and definitely not the life of some random person who happens to also be gay. Also no this is not an “LGB(no T) type thing”, even though it will be attacked as that. I support trans rights just as much as I support gay rights. Instead I’m saying I don’t identify with other LGBs inherently either.
You can choose to not identify as part of the queer community, I feel a similar way about my ethnic heritage. However, you will be prescribed as a member of that group by not only members of the group, but by bigots who hate those people. Even if you don’t feel connected to gay or queer people, people in those communities and bigots who hate those people will both consider you as part of the community because you like people of the same gender. When looking at people in aggregate, others will group you based on traits like that whether you like it or not.
This matters to your well being because political groups tend to act in accordance with how other people in that group have acted. In the case of tankies and TERFs, both groups use arguments that appeal to queer identities, claiming that it is in the best interests of gay people to side with them and that gay people have always sided with them in positive ways. The recent history directly contradicts these claims as terfs openly ally with self described fascists. Tankies are defined by their unwillingness to question the authority and leadership self described communist states, most of whom openly discriminate against minorititized groups, like gay people.
Going back to my feelings about my ethnic heritage, I don’t identify strongly as a Latina, but racists don’t care what I think. They’ll discriminate against me based on what they think of me. Thus, for my own well being, I am incentivized to know about the history of discrimination against Latinos.
.ml 乂 hexbear
I’m seriously considering setting up my own instance so I can defederate hexbear and *.ml instead of manually banning each community
What is a TERF and what is a Tankie?
Terf: trans exclusionary radical feminist (self explanatory)
Tankie: left wing extremists and authoritarian apologists
For example, not believing that one year of testosterone makes it fair that trans women compete in the woman’s sports category.
Well you seem to know what you’re talking about…
You can be a communist without being a tankie, just can’t simp so hard for Putin is all!
It’s funny you mention neoliberalism as a argument for being a Tankie, even though most ML states have adopted neoliberal policies. The market based reforms of China following the death of Mao were based around neoliberal principles to gain power in the system of global capitalism. It was a more nationalist approach, but neoliberalism has its tendrils all over many modern ML states.
But it hasn’t been a failure.
When was the last time you actually read anything pro capitalism?
I bet you never haven’t.
I see way more posts complaining about these groups than content from the groups themselves.
Lemmy.world defederated from hexbear which is filled with tankies. That is why you do not really see them.
Hexbear has only been federated for a couple months. Lemmy.world was pretty quick to defederate from them. Their posts took up quite a bit of my feed on Lemm.ee before I started blocking their subs when I saw them.
