This has gotten some attention, especially about a week ago, but I really hope more people will continue to try it and, if interested, support it. It is Firefox, but heavily modified to please a different audience that prefers a slightly different UI than Firefox. It has some of the appeal of Arc, Vivaldi, and the Sidebery extension.

In my view, it is very promising, and all competition in this space is good. Here it is on Github, also.

45 points

I’ve used it for a bit, and it’s really really nice. I just don’t know if I trust it to keep up with security updates, especially something so sensitive as a web browser.

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It’s just Firefox with a custom skin.

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I know, but that means it needs to keep its firefox source version up to date to keep up with security, and as its source diverges more and more from vanilla firefox, it’ll get harder to do that.

Plus they’ve already proved to be amateurs by enabling some things that really shouldn’t have been enabled: https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/pull/927.

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Yeah enabling remote debugging because the dev thought it made it easier is a pretty big oof.

But this is just strike one. It’s a one man show, after all, so cutting them some slack is warranted when it comes to this specific topic.

Nevertheless, your concerns aren’t unfounded. This project needs more contributors to be able to keep up. (Thorium is basically in the same boat)

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A great custom skin, and far better defaults for both privacy and speed, based on Betterfox.

The fact that a fork that simply has a better UI and default settings is gaining so much popularity shows how bad Mozilla is fumbling their product.

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I do hope this puts mozilla in a position where they have to improve firefox.

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Zen browser has some Vivaldi and ARC browser customization features. That could be an interesting difference.

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So far it’s been in sync with Firefox Nightly.

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So far, yes, but it’s early days for it, and I suspect it will get harder and harder to keep up.

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The UI/UX is so good for a one-person team that I hope it embarrasses Mozilla into actually making serious improvements to their browser for the first time in a decade.

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With Google influence? I’d really love to see it, no sarcasm.

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The UI looks mostly like Firefox IMO. Critically, it’s just as slow as Firefox.

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I was such a HUGE fan of Floorp until I saw the main dev behind it talk about how they wanted to start looking into ways to “monetize” the browser. Just really turned me off and I went back to Firefox.

Needless to say, this looks AWESOME, and I hope that more people find it and try it out. (After the early bugs are ironed out, of course).

Good job devs!

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Can you use FF extensions with it? The web site doesn’t say one way or the other.

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yes. it’s Firefox with some extra UI modifications, but it’s the same thing under the hood.

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Definitely as already answered, but I’ll also add they have a “theme store” which is kind of a bespoke userChrome.css tool. It isn’t just themes, but it is in addition to, not in lieu of Firefox extensions.

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Yeah

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Finally, I can replace Arc browser! Floorp was terrible.

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I tried Floorp and didn’t like it either, I’m glad there’s a more promising looking project out there now. Still great to see more development in the Firefox/Gecko ecosystem. We don’t need more Chromium garbage.

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100% Chromium monopoly needs to die.

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Floorp didn’t impress me either, but I’m not sure yet that I can 100% replace my awesome Arc workflow. The “Air Traffic Control” with profile / space combinations is spectacular. But I’ll find a way to make it work, because I really prefer FOSS when possible.

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Just wish Zen adds small details/features like Arc team does. Small details/features are crucial in the early stages of the project.

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My hopes are high but I’m trying to keep my expectations low. Just one guy and some contributors is a much different context than a bunch of venture capital. But I agree.

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What is this Arc?

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Chromium based browser

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