Don’t worry I’m here for every delicious bit of drama.
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There is no real Liberal and Communist strife or violence. Only bad actors attempting to create political divisions in places they don’t belong.
Not just CCP, Russians too.
I’m sure our conservatives would join in if their grandkids would help them get their facesbook working on the TV again.
The CCP trolls are laughably untalented compared to Russians. You just have to ask a CCP troll to say one bad thing about China and watch them short circuit.
Russians are dangerous because they can criticize Russia. Their goal is to make you think EVERYONE is shit, and therefore don’t bother voting. It’s a much more subtle and effective form of propaganda.
I vibe with both anarchists (cool, helpful) and communists (smart, boring). Liberals drive me crazier everyday.
Oh I’m sorry have a offended you by being PRO LIBERTY? No, you know what? Stop posting then since you hate liberty so much
I genuinely don’t know how to take this comment. Is it serious? Is it ironic? I’ve dealt with a lot of angry liberals today, so I feel it could be serious. On the other hand it’s giving ::Randy Marsh in handcuffs:: and so I think it might be a bit.
You have to learn to distinguish cool liberals, who are for individual freedom, democracy, progressive society; from the bad liberals who always side with private property against those things. The people in the first category are just confused; the people in the second category are actual class enemies. I acknowledge that these aren’t discreet categories and there will be some overlap, but winning people to your ideas slowly, over time – because these ideas are based in their material reality, which they need to test against their existing views – is the only way to get through to people. Sometimes the process is quicker, sometimes its slow, but its the only way to help people see the world for what it really is, and that together we can actually bring the fight to the ruling class.
I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. I still get frustrated sometimes though!
It is frustrating in almost every way! I can summon a lot of optimism for the project of socialism and the historic role of the working class; but when it comes to the day to day its too easy to get disillusioned. Its supposed to be disillusioning! The tragic reality in the west is that in our alienation, our exploitation appears to us as comfort. Hang in there and take care of yourself!
It depends for me. The labels aren’t really useful if I don’t know the person. One kid I interacted with over a few months said enough in line with fascism that I call him that. Someone just telling me they’re communist, anarchist, liberal isn’t enough to really get their actual beliefs, given how much overlap and misuse of the terms there is. I will generally vibe with a more left leaning person, of course, so if any of those labels are used I’m like, cool, we’ll probably have good conversations. Even conservatives I’m opening up to. Republicans? My God. I blame my mental illnesses on that brain rot.
Liberalism is such a Boogeyman term on “the left.” Classical liberalism is very compatible with lib left ideals, and in many ways informs that philosophical lineage. Everyone gets wrapped up in the idea of private property being a core value, when it is really a corollary hanging off the core value of rights for the individual. Property or no property, the core idea is scarcity harm reduction. There are many ways to get there, and the best ones agree that licking some authoritarian boot is a terrible way to liberate people.
Ladies and gentlemen: downpunxx
Easy fix though, he’s ban evading since his kbin account was already permabanned once (I believe both from this community and .world itself) for this exact shit.
Damn everybody seems to be hating on this and idk shit about the history of anarchy to say if it’s valid, but I gotta add that this quote goes hard
Call yourself whatever you want, at the end of the day we’re all utopianists who’re overly self-assured that our favorite pet-theory-system will eventually remove all suffering.
“If my vision for society were adopted, the world would be perfect!”
Keep dreaming. We’re fucked.
As an anarchist this is me on a good day. I more often find myself in the middle getting shit on from both directions.
Probably because there are more CCP pretending to be anarchists than actual anarchists on Lemmy.
