Since I’m a WoW addict, naturally I’m a Blizzard fan, of sorts. But my mind is blown every time I see anything from Call of Duty on the launcher. I’ve been really out of the loop, and recently saw this… and I’m shocked. You have to BUY the game for “open beta access”, like how does that make any sense? Also, the general look of the game and its marketing now looks like a $5 ripoff FPS game on Steam… What the heck happened?

84 points

People buy this shit so they make more. Simple as that.

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Blah blah blah, supply and demand.

I swear the less A’ a game has in the context of “AAAA”, “AAA”, etc, the better it is.

In recent years I’ve found more niche or mid sized studios have my interest at heart. The more A’s a game claims to have, the more bullshit predatory crap it has, micro transactions, etc.

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People buy it. People then buy the skins. I play the free to play one sometimes and nearly every single person I kill has a $30+ skin and weapons. It’s saddening.

One of the funniest things with cod too now, is that people always used to say it was the same game every year, but it is actually the same game every year now, with progress and weapons carrying over.

Gone are the days of a one time purchase and a solid game. (Well in the AAA space anyway)

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The term “beta” has been abused for so long that it’s become meaningless in terms of what it actually is supposed to be. It’s just a paid demo and/or early access.

Just look at WoW, they had a “beta” for like 2 or 3 months, and a paid early access package. Adding insult to injury they started patching/nerfing stuff like a day after early access. It’s annoying as fuck that they have many months of “testing” and then fail to fix the blatant issues until it hits live servers and even after the early access period. Everything screams like “should’ve bought the beta and early access, huh?”. Paid stuff like betas and early access are just money grabs, and people fall for it. So next expansion will probably be an even longer early access period, or more bonuses.

As for CoD looking like a collection of brainrot operators, weapons and themes, I think they are just trying to figure out ways to keep CoD relevant without releasing actual identical games every time, even if it just means changing the theme. And people are still buying it, so why would they stop.

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I’ve been saying this for years. I remember playing the Planetside 2 beta, it ran for months. It was actually used for bug/stability testing, fixing networking issues, balancing, etc etc etc. It was an incredibly important step in developing a multiplayer game.

These aren’t betas, they’re demos that at most will help them do a limited network stress test. The amount of data they can get from 2 weeks of feedback is nowhere near enough to do any real bug fixes or balance changes.

What’s worse is that now, any game that does have a long alpha or beta period is accused of squatting in early access.

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Oh man I remember Planetside 2 launch being so insanely laggy and buggy lol

At some point we threw grenades on a giant pile because they just never went off, or sometimes just disappeared as soon as we threw them. I don’t think the devs ever tested that huge influx of players anywhere in the pre-launch stage. It’s hard to predict some things that will go different from testing to live, but man it seems so obvious with large multiplayer titles.

Even WoW still struggled with this, servers becoming laggy and unresponsive even, it’s been better last 2 expansion launches but it’s still not great. And they had over 15 years of data to go on too.

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I also remember it being in a pretty rough state early on, all the more reason 2 weeks of testing is a joke.

Although, one thing CoD has going for it, each game changes so little they really don’t need a beta. They’re almost like sports games in that regard, they may as well be released as updates instead of new titles.

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That has to be a meme post. Black Ops SIX? You’re joking. This is a picture from 2018.

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Nope. I also totally missed even Black Ops 5 existing. But then again, what I’m looking for in a CoD game (good split screen offline local multiplexer with a decent selection of maps and not too much bullshit) hasn’t really been met since BO3. All newer ones are either online only (in varying degrees of awfulness, ranging from no splitscreen at all to splitscreen with two activision accounts required) and/or have a terrible split screen layout. Haven’t tried WWII though, so far, which might still be good enough (and interesting due to less bullshit than bo3, my current fav that isn’t from the 360/ps3 era)

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FWIW the open beta will be open, but people who prepurchase get extra skins and early beta access. Activision has been putting anti-consumer features in CoD since Black Ops 3, to my knowledge. That was the first one where you had to roll loot boxes to unlock all the weapons as opposed to just playing MP matches.

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Advanced warfare set the precedent. Black ops 3 made it slightly less of a slot machine, but it was still garbage.

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Oh okay! I missed out on Advanced Warfare’s online, going straight from Black Ops II to Black Ops III. I remembered people not liking the boost jumping in Advanced Warfare, but I didn’t realize that’s where all the loot box stuff started. To its credit, I remember playing some splitscreen AW with my brothers, and I believe it had all weapons unlocked offline at least. BO3 didn’t have that, which was a disappointment for me in a rural area without internet capable of online MP.

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Yeah they were frustratingly bad systems. I was a huge bo3 fan and it made me really sad that I couldn’t use any of the cool new guns because I had bad luck on the slot machines :(

IMO Advanced warfare was worse because it locked some guns behind the crates, and also locked a ton of “variants” behind crates that were objectively better than the base gun

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