I truly believe that these license plates actually work but not for the reason these idiots think.
As soon as a cop sees your plate, they instantly know you’re driving an unregistered vehicle, probably dont have a license, insane, looking for an argument, and impervious to reason. Good chance they’re going to say “Fuck it, I’m not dealing with this crap today.”
And once posted in the local gossip group, they’re now forced to deal with it
This is probably the correct answer. I drove around without a front license plate for over 4 years (my state requires front and back) since my car didn’t come with screws for a front mount. It was one of those things I put on my to-do list but never got around to and eventually just kind of forgot about it.
Anyway, I live close to a couple of police stations (I live near a border to another city, so my city and the next city have PDs within a couple miles of each other) and never got pulled over. Hell, I have even went through several traffic stops over the years and none of them ever said a word to me. A few months ago I finally ran into a cop that actually gave a shit and pulled me over. He was obviously a new recruit, as he was very young and did everything very by-the-book. I got a warning and the next day I ordered a mount for my other plate, but I was just amazed I’d gone so many years without any cop caring. I figured it was because most cops just can’t be bothered to care about small shit like that. Though, if I was a minority (I’m in the US), it’d probably be a different story.
If you were a minority you’d be pulled over every day, probably each way to and from work with that as the reason. Given expensive fix-it tickets each time. And most likely had your vehicle searched or impounded for multiple failures to comply. Not being hyperbolic, this has happened often. One guy it was 1 day, 3 tickets and then impound because he failed to fix the issue in a day.
When the rules are applied on a whim by whatever person with authority feels like, you live in tyranny. That isn’t an orderly system. It is a failed nation.
Fix it tickets everywhere I live give you three days to a week from when it was written to get it fixed, you just show the next cop that pulls you over your dated ticket and tell them you ordered the part or have an appointment with a mechanic or whatever. I believe the first half of your comment but the second feels a lot like one bell end to the whole “three sides to every story” saying.
I’m chancing it with my front plate right now too. Been over a year and nothing said yet. I do carry it in my car just in case. I think it’s one of those addon charges, if they catch you for something else and want to just slam you with everything.
Carrying it in your car implies that you know its wrong, leave it in your house and if you get pulled over claim ignorance. “Oh shit. Its not on there? Guess I never knew.”
Unless you ware already doing something illegal like possession or driving without a valid license they won’t care. Usually
Some states don’t require front plates, so they have to check front and back to notice.
Also sov cits are probably more likely than the average driver to be carrying concealed weapons and stuff, since they don’t think the law applies to them.
Ever hear one of these guys babbling in front of a cop/judge? They think by speaking the exact phrase of faux-legal gibberish they can magically unlock “immunity from law”. They just repeat the same phrase in as many different word combinations as possible desperately searching for the right incantation
It never works but being impervious to reality or reason is basically the hill they are willing to die on in order to gain online clout with a niche group of weirdos who for some reason trigger the dopamine receptors in their glass-smooth brains by feeling collectively intransigent together
I’ve never understood this. Even if they are absolutely convinced that they’re right, you can go watch 1000 videos of judges and cops who are wholly unimpressed with their gibberish. They might be convinced they know a hidden truth, but what good is it when the established institutions don’t recognize it as truth?
My theory is that they’re just lacking in reasoning skills. How else would you become a sovcit in the first place? If their arguments were effective, every lawyer in the country would be using them.
But they do see that this works. They see the rich and famous getting out (often on bail, but who cares about details?) on technicalities, and think they can do it as well. They fail to appreciate, of course, all the expertise and all the legwork that these lawyers needed in order to find these loopholes for their clients.
They don’t say it, they don’t even acknowledge it themselves, but they view this in the same way a credulous middle ages individual would view making a deal with the fey. The right set of words, the right incantation, will grant you power over them whether they want to acknowledge it or not.
That’s the mental image they have. If you ask them how these secret laws are enforced and what actually obligates the judges, police, government, etc to follow the rules, they won’t admit the magical thinking, though they will babble and make up nonsense that sounds, to them, like genuine explanations but is in truth gibberish.
At the end, though, that’s what they’re doing…they’re chanting mystical incantations that will bind the Queen of the Faeries to their will and prevent the fae from doing harm upon them or impeding them.
But they don’t even take the cautionary parts of the tales to heart, for even if you should succeed on pulling one over on the Faeries, they are wily and patient, and someday they will trick you into giving up the protection you thought was unbreakable. Just as even if they actually managed to stumble upon the correct legal maneuver, it is likely the system will be back to get them one way or another.
But buying things at the grocery store is commerce???
Unless they’re driving their vehicle in the grocery store, I don’t think it counts, or something
It’s like guys hugging, as long as you say “no homo no commerce” it doesn’t count.
Here, buy my book of bureaucratic incantations.
Easiest scam targets ever
BuyinG StAmpS is JusTliKe paYing taXes to the shaDdow gov acTuallY ran bYUSPS.
What you do is you print NO POSTAGE NECESSARY IF MAILED IN THE UNITED STATES and glue that, not tape, it needs to be on the same corner as the moon position when facing north.
Then somewhere on it, scribble in Sharpie the following Stat. st Law, Ch. 71, Sec. 23, circle that 3 times, not 2. Use red.
I also got mailing supplies including pre-made stamp-like sovereign labels you can buy, Bill’s been using them for years without issues, ask him.
Still probably too coherent, mb.
You forgot that all writing needs to be done at exactly a 33⁰ angle. they have protractors to check you know.
Ok, but you got me thinking it’d probably be possible to trick them into being pro privacy and green tech by using an “off the government grid” angle.
Sovereign Citizens are the absolute most annoying people. You want to deport anyone? Start with them. Keep the migrants & refugees who want to be here. Send the SovCits to Senegal Somalia.
Every time I hear or read Senegal, I think of this gem from the last time that Jim McGuiness was coaching the Donegal GAA team, featuring the amazing Senegal Jimmy who can rattle off more Irish place names than most Irish people that I’ve met: https://youtu.be/gAjQrnImT_k?si=DQl_xIZv_P4Xz9pB
I saw my first SovCit plate in the wild yesterday! They also had a tinted cover over it, I assume to hide it. Such a lack of confidence, tsk tsk.
I don’t get why they advertise themselves. You’ll blend in a lot more if you use a normal plate and simply never renew the registration. You rarely get pulled over for this and ticket is so minor that it’s easy to just ignore it and never show up to court. But more often than not the cop will just tell you to renew it ASAP and send you on your way. Be polite, apologize, don’t argue/mention any sovern citizen bullshit, and most importantly: don’t be brown-skinned, and usually they’ll just let you go without even so much of a warning.
Won’t the state just impound the car the second time sovcit gets pulled over? And eventually auction.
Wow haha. I would love to see one but they’re not really a thing here I don’t think.
I also don’t seem to have them near me, but I might start carrying a hammer to break the tint of I see one. Sovereign citizens can get fucked and pay taxes.
Every time I’m in the US I look at every plate I can, but nothing so far. Upstate New York tends to be a bit more sane though.
