Ever since reading about her at a table with Putin and Flynn at a Russian state propaganda outlets fundraiser during the initial Trump election, and her subsequently getting significant boosts and support from Russia during the 2016 election….
I just can’t trust her. Even if she was just getting played for a fool by the company she kept, that’s a level of dangerously ignorant that isn’t appropriate in a political leader in my opinion. That’s giving her significant benefit of the doubt, the worse case is that she knew exactly what she was doing.
So you read the propaganda about her and the table with Putin and Flynn, but you didn’t read the information coming from the Senate Intelligence Committee about that dinner that said it was a nothingbuger?
So you read the pieces that challenge what I believe, but how about the sources that validate my opinion? Let’s ignore all the other evidence and focus on that
Doesn’t change my opinion of her at all, but I respect and support your right to that opinion. I’m actually not voting for her anyway, but I still support her goals.
I m actually not voting for her anyway
Legitimately curious. What made you change your mind, when the first ~1000 comments you made in your account’s first two weeks on Lemmy were so vehemently and exclusively supportive of her?
My chosen candidate, Rachele Fruit of the Socialist Workers Party, is now on the ballot in my state. Before, that option wasn’t available. While I still support Jill Stein and her goals, Fruit aligns more closely with my socialist values, and now I can actually vote for her. I’m still a huge Jill Stein fan tho.
Astroturfed some agendas, maybe.
I like what Green says. Nobody knows what Green does. I’d be happy enough to throw them some votes for a municipal or county level seat or two to see what they do with it, but a Green vote is a wasted vote at the Federal level right now.
*points up* that’s me, voting my conscience.
edit: minor typo for grammar
And I support and respect your right to vote for who you want. As I’ll vote for who I want–that’s me, voting my conscience.
Oh hey. We meet again.
How’s things for you? Have you been getting breaks and adequate hydration? I just had a nice vacation, myself.
Its getting interesting around here, no?
It’s always interesting around here. Isn’t diversity of opinion and thought awesome?!
The green party is more interested in messaging than they are in getting actual positive change done. They have no interest in actually fixing the system, they just want to bitch about it. It’d be really cool if they could get on the same team, but as it stands now the green party is 100% functioning as an asset to the Trump campaign and they’re doing it willingly.
Jill Stein is not a serious person. She shows up every 4 years and does nothing but spread bullshit talking points very similar to most of the content OP posts. Fluff about how evil the duopoly is and exactly zero about how helping the GOP win helps us.
Greens are in other elections besides presidential:
Californians have elected 55 of the 226 office-holding Greens nationwide. Other states with high numbers of Green elected officials include Pennsylvania (31), Wisconsin (23), Massachusetts (18) and Maine (17). Maine has the highest per capita number of Green elected officials in the country and the largest Green registration percentage with more than 29,273 Greens comprising 2.95% of the electorate as of November 2006.[68] Madison, Wisconsin is the city with the most Green elected officials (8), followed by Portland, Maine (7).
He won’t see this because he blocked me, but he’s either intentionally lying or using an inaccurate source. There are currently only 142 Greens in elected office in the US. No federal positions, eight state positions (though most were not elected as Greens), and the rest have been local/municipal elections.
I never knew there were so many! Can you provide your source for this? I’m having trouble finding numbers that agree.
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_the_United_States#Membership
Tho someone else mentioned they have updated numbers. But I haven’t looked at the website they cited yet.
If by “transformed” you mean “killed”, sure.
How did that “Green New Deal” work out?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_New_Deal
"The first U.S. politician to run on a Green New Deal platform was Howie Hawkins of the Green Party when he ran for governor of New York in 2010.[10] Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein ran on a Green New Deal platform in 2012 and 2016.[11]
In the 2014 Congressional race in California, Independent candidate for CA-33 and author Marianne Williamson endorsed the Green New Deal in her campaign platform.[68]"
It’s a punchline, not a policy.
Jill Stein has caused untold damage to the environmental movement and should go away and never come back.
