203 points

She destroyed the city of San Francisco, it’s — and I own a big building there — it’s no — I shouldn’t talk about this but that’s OK I don’t give a damn because this is what I’m doing. I should say it’s the finest city in the world — sell and get the hell out of there, right? But I can’t do that. I don’t care, you know? I lost billions of dollars, billions of dollars. You know, somebody said, ‘What do you think you lost?’ I said, ‘Probably two, three billion. That’s OK, I don’t care.’ They say, ‘You think you’d do it again?’ And that’s the least of it. Nobody. They always say, I don’t know if you know. Lincoln was horribly treated. Uh, Jefferson was pretty horribly. Andrew Jackson they say was the worst of all, that he was treated worse than any other president. I said, ‘Do that study again, because I think there’s nobody close to Trump.’ I even got shot! And who the hell knows where that came from, right?

Same as it ever was

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105 points

Why do people keep saying this?! Sure, he babbled some when he ran in 2015, but at you could hear the words and insert your own meaning. We can’t even pretend to parse anything out of this speech. Hell, his own supporters are walking out on his rallies.

If your grandpa was living alone and conversing with you like this, you would quietly be contemplating a rest home in his very near future. People this far gone can no longer live alone.

Go back to the 80s and 00s and have a listen. Really. Watch a video or three. Doesn’t matter if you agree with what he was saying, his speech was clear, on target.

Can’t say when I noticed the sharp decline, hard to spot, a boiled frog thing. 2019 I think? Compared to then, the man has fallen off a cliff.

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53 points

He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016, anyone could have, and did see it, and say it then.

Unfortunately, republiQans are a cult in every literal sense that matters. trump only needs to stay alive and they’ll vote for him.

The fact that he’s worse than ever will be borne by them as a secret shame; no one will talk about it, it makes everyone in the cult uncomfortable, and it will not deter them in the slightest.

It’s 2024 and I think as Americans we still don’t have consensus on how unfathomably broken the republiQans have made politics. It’s virtually unrecognizable from the viewpoint of someone even in the 60’s.

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3 points

He was a demented sociopathic narcissist in 2016

Can’t say much for his supporters either.

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29 points

Even as late as the 2016 RNC debates he was still speaking clearly, responding to his opponents, and occasionally making a coherent point.

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16 points

I don’t see anything different about his rambling, tbh. I think the only notable difference is him working out nicknames while in front of an audience instead of ahead of time.

His talking points aren’t landing, so he’s fishing around for something that gets the reaction he’s looking for.

I think he would have done the same if “build a wall and make Mexico pay for it” was met with confusion.

He was always this incoherent, but he had “better” slogans to fall back on.

I’d say it’s probably more due to him alienating most of his former team, and then surrounding himself with more incompetent yes men, than cognitive decline. His baseline of cognitive capacity wasn’t high in the first place.

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52 points

So what happened to San Francisco?

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74 points

By the end I completely forgot he was talking about San Francisco, and I think that is the point.

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47 points

He probably did too

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31 points

Destroyed, so just completely and totally demolished.

F

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14 points

Just like Portland. Burned right to the ground. Never mind all the intact buildings and people living there still. That’s just a liberal hoax.

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0 points

Just like Seattle

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10 points
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3 billion Andrew Jackson’s

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7 points

Godzilla

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7 points

I’m pretty sure T**** just watched the last half of Godzilla (2014) and thought it was a documentary. Obviously it’s Harris’ fault that Godzilla and the MUTOs destroyed SF. I’m surprised he didn’t mention the nuke

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35 points

Theodore Roosevelt got shot in fucking lung and still finished his speech. Trump barely or maybe it was glass who knows (literally two weeks later was completely healed) yet got wisk away by four agents then wore a tampon on his ear.

Fuck weird Trump and sounds like he has dementia.

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21 points

Get your facts straight. It was a menstrual pad, not a tampon.

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9 points

I doubt Trump knows the difference

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Nah, he’s definitely worse now.

It’s just he gets worse at about the same speed we get used to it.

So he’s constantly lowering the bar, and if “not trump” is enough, that means everyone else’s bar constantly gets lowered as well.

If Dem voter’s only standard is not being trump, we end up with people who will take money from anyone

It’s pretty much the reason AIPAC is so blatantly buying primary elections these days. They used to hide it, now it’s literally “fuck you money” against anyone that calls them out for genocide.

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20 points

Speaking of rambling…

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9 points

Lol

🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

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13 points

I mean Jackson and Lincoln both got shot, at least Jackson wasn’t a bitch about it.

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16 points

Yeah, and Lincoln had the audacity to die when he got shot. Not very presidential, if you ask me.

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9 points

I like presidents who don’t die when they get shot.

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9 points

This is way worse than it ever was.

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4 points

It’s more, yes, but no one should be surprised.

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124 points

He’s talking like my grandpa did a few weeks before he dropped dead, so fingers crossed I guess

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44 points

People with access to healthcare can hang on while deteriorating well beyond where he is over the course of many years.

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40 points

I want to see him in jail. Death is too good for him.

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14 points

It may not be his just desserts but it may give us just enough of a bump from am electoral point of view to keep Vance the fuck away from power. Do not prioritize satisfaction over effective.

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14 points

Same but I’ll take what I can get.

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78 points

There better be a huge (UUGE) focus on his decline after the debate. That’s the time to put an emphasis on it - right after millions of people see it during the debate.

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31 points

The press are going to be nitpicking Harris’ earrings or the color of her blouse or something. Major news outlets are never going to treat Trump like Biden,

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28 points

I hope they give him coke or amphetamines before the debate to try perking him up.

I also hope it causes him to incessantly freak out about how much he’s shitting himself

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19 points

Or a OD and heart attack.

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69 points

The sad thing is, he will end up winning more than 20 states despite this.

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75 points

Also, despite the fact that he is a criminal, a racist, a misogynist, denies climate change and pretty much exclusively pursues policies contrary to the interests of ordinary citizens.

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8 points

don’t forget he is also a rapist!

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1 point

Rapist??? I thought he was just with a hooker? (Not that even that is ok)

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4 points

I wonder how his people hope to deal with his condition at work? trump belongs in a rehabilitation clinic, he sounds like he is on autopilot

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5 points

I think you meant to comment on OP’s post. If you ask me, I’d say he rather belongs in jail. Given the countless serious cases that have been and are being brought against him, it’s inexplicable to me that he managed to get around jail time - and is even a presidential candidate instead.

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5 points

And there will be people who consider themselves good people who wont vote and will just let it happen because they can’t be bothered or think they’re above it.

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3 points

They will vote for a corpse, as long as it is not a Democrat. The same was true with Democrats when Joe Biden was still running.

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25 points

Difference is that a good number of Dem voters saw Biden’s issues and understood it’s a choice between those issues and a fascist that’ll deal the death blow to the moribund US democracy. Trump voters are just cooked.

You get one - there isn’t a third option, and abstaining is a win for the fascists.

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Well, honestly the administration is more than a single person, which is why the other points raised by @DandomRude@lemmy.world are important.

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I saw plenty of Democrats holding their nose to vote for Biden, while being very vocal about his age and cognition. I don’t see any criticism about Trump from his base. They shun any Republican politician who speaks out against him, so all we get is softballs from those not up for re-election again.

I mean, why do you think Biden stepped down? It was pressure from voters, pressure from donors, and pressure from a ton of elected democrats. Where is that pressure on Trump?

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67 points

Doesn’t he look tired?

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11 points

Weird

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6 points

I understood that reference!

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3 points

Hey! I’ve said the same thing! You can look at my comment history. :)

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