https://futurism.com/the-byte/government-ai-worse-summarizing

The upshot: these AI summaries were so bad that the assessors agreed that using them could require more work down the line, because of the amount of fact-checking they require. If that’s the case, then the purported upsides of using the technology — cost-cutting and time-saving — are seriously called into question.

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Sure, but it’s cheaper, and so if we fire all of our employees and replace them with AI, for this next quarter our profits will go WAY up, and then I can get my bonus and retire. So it’s totally fine!

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There’s a certain level of risk aversion with these decisions though. One of the justification of salaries for managers who generally don’t do shit is they take “responsibility”. Honestly even if AI was performing at or above human level, a lot of briefs would have to be done by someone you could fire anyway.

And as much as next quarter performance is all they care about, there are still some survival instincts left. My last company put a ban on using genAI for all client facing activities because a sales guy almost presented a deck with client is going to instantly walk out levels of wrong information in it.

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Yeah, that’s something I was thinking about. With human employees, you can always blame workers when anything goes wrong, fire some people and call it a day. AI can’t take responsibility the same way.

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They’ll fire everyone and love the short term profit boost but within a year realize it’s fucking up their production processes. But they’ll be so hooked on all that money saving that they’ll pull some sneaky ways of rehiring everyone buy for less money and benefits.

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Any time a client mentions “I asked ChatGPT” or any of the other hopped-up chatbots, what follows is always, without fail, completely ass-backwards and wrong as hell. We literally note in client files the ones who keep asking some shitty chatbot instead of us because they’re frequent fuckups and knowing that they’re a chatbot pervert helps us narrow down what stupid shit they’ve done again.

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Yeah I’ve purged “AI” from my vocabulary, at least for now.

These are chatbots. That’s it. “AI” is a marketing term.

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I say “LLM” or “treat printer” because fuck the marketing word and fuck the bazinga cultists that keep expecting a fully sapient but also unconditionally adoring mommy bangmaid just like in the cyberpunkerino treats any day now.

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I recall my AI class discussed a bunch of different things that people call AI that don’t come anywhere near “replacement human”. For instance, the AI in red alert 2 has some basic rules about buildings and gathering a certain number of units and send them the players way.

Obviously, RA2s “AI” isn’t being used for labour discipline and llms are massively overhyped but I think getting hung up on the word is… idk, kinda a waste of time (as I feel like a lot of this thread is)

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People are right to be annoyed about “zero emissions” vehicles that hide their carbon waste requirements away from tailpipes, and for “smart” bombs that aren’t particularly smart when they murder even more (allegedly) unintended targets, so I think it’s fair for people to be annoyed that “AI” isn’t really that and that any generalized artificial intelligence developed in the future will have some difficulty being distinguished by the public from the marketing bullshit they’ve already taken in for prior products.

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I think people are allowed to be annoyed, but if thats all you want to talk about i think its a waste of energy? It’s just language, we can call it flubbon if you like and move the conversation along.

Unless we want to get bogged down talking about whether band aids “medical adhesive strips”, which is a perfectly fine conversation to have if that’s what both participants want to talk about.

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AI is a fine term because it’s artificial. It’s a facsimile. If they were serious it would just be I

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It’s still a marketing term. AI makes people think of SciFi and robot mommies.

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Exactly, there is no “real AI”. It’s an oxymoron.

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They bury the lede in the article thought. They used llamma 2 - 70B which is not a great model

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Continuing to look under LLM rocks of varying size and shininess in search of the solve-every-problem robot god of the future

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Observing that newer models perform better than older models on a variety of benchmarks means you want to have an intimate relationship with your computer.

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Stating that newer models that perform better than old models somehow implies that the newer models are completely living up to marketing hype, up to and including calling it “artificial intelligence” to begin with.

And yes, it’s a known and established issue where some people that stan for these treat printers do see them as replacements for people, not tools. There’s already an entire startup industry of “AI companions” selling that belief, so what I said isn’t as absurd as you claim it is. Besides, I said “robot god of the future” there, not “AI” waifus, but there’s certainly a connection that some true believers make between the two concepts.

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What’s the model that does work with this use case?

(I don’t think there is one)

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