https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/140vbey/launching_rlemmymigration_what_communities_have/jmxnzsh/?context=1

Look at here and the people who complain about it being too hard to figure out are the ones complaining about “I can’t use muh slurs, this is awful.”

“The left of today is very much in favour of censorship to avoid “harm.” This makes those of us in the middle very wary of signing up to any partisan media.” /u/decidedlysticky23

/u/misshapensteed claims he isn’t far right, but explictly only posts on PoliticalCompassMemes and TheLeftCantMeme and KotakuInAction.

If they are too stupid to figure out we know they’re lying, they’re too stupid to figure out lemmy.

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claims he isn’t far right

Right-wing extremists do this to make it seem like their position is widely held and “normal.” The worst extreme right-wing party we have here in Finland (Valta kuuluu kansalle or “Power Belongs to the People”, aka Valta kuuluu Kremlille or “Power Belongs to the Kremlin”) claims to be center right. The head of the party is a pro-Russia flat earther who doesn’t believe in climate change, and the party is staunchly anti-immigration

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Performative Overton acrobatics.

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On the one hand, I hate the right’s bullshit. But, on the other hand, there was some comfort in having the ability to keep tabs on them. If they pick a different space, it’ll be harder to anticipate what they’re planning.

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They already have several. Vote, 8chan, 4chan, parler, telegram, truth spcial, pockets of reddit, and twitter now i guess. I can’t think of as many leftist equivalents.

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frankly i can only think of hexbear and raddle as even remotely comparable “spaces”–and you’d need to be pretty online to even know what those are. left-social media is just not a thing in the same way as it is for the right and far-right

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And that’s so crazy to me, honestly. I remember the days when not a single ISP was willing to host Stormfront, and every website instantly banned anyone who was being a nazi. Now they embrace them.

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What’s funny is there is nothing stopping them from making their own instance. I think the hesitation stems from them coming to grips with reality that few people really want to engage with their messaging when they step out of their bubble.

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Because they can’t make people who don’t agree with them miserable if they’re all relegated to their own bubbles.

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Yes. This is a different platform, I’d rather we don’t just transplant all the reddit problems here.

Lemmy is inherently political. It was and is a revolt against reddit’s staff, their business model and the influence of US politics, media and corporations on their platform due to their advertising model. This place wouldn’t exist if there wasn’t political differences.

We’re not here to impress people who were banned for spreading Nazism. Go to all the reddit-clones that started in the early 2010s when reddit got called out for hosting toxic racist-or-fascist hate communities and communities sexualizing minors (e.g. /r/jailbait).

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Everything is inherently political. If anyone thinks it isn’t, it’s just because the politics favour them.

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Very true. A good phrase is “the personal is political”. Politics refers to organization, power, and decision-making, and so much of our lives is determined by decisions outside our control.

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This is true, politics is not something distinct which can be considered separate from or optionally added to society, culture or economics, although Lemmy is also explicitly political. That might be more what I intended to say.

(The real kicker is realizing that abstaining is not politically neutral.)

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Yeah, I told a guy today his hate of communism was totally his own prerogative, but he might want to put it aside to make a unified front against the impending Reddit changes. He flipped out on me and called me some choice words. Just another day on Reddit I guess.

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Ah, perhaps you needed a translator to put things in terms this particular individual could understand. Let me help:

Woke woke WOKE wOke, woke wOKe WOKE!!! 😡

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