116 points

I mean fuck AT&T, but fuck needless consolidation, pointless service bundling, and revocation of perpetual licences even more.

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Also just fuck Broadcom in general for all the other dumb shit they do.

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This isn’t a revocation of a perpetual license. This is about broadcom not offering their support services any more. ATT still has the perpetual license to use the software they bought

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The wise thing is to not offer perpetual licenses in the first place. You can’t predict the state of your business in 10 years let alone beyond that. Why make commitments that? Marketing of course. So if they’re going to raise capital that way (by one-time revenue from sales of perpetual licenses) then they can’t just decide that perpetual doesn’t mean perpetual anymore. All in all this will come down to a legal duel between expensive legal teams.

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Perpetual licences have their place, like I’m reasonably confident under the hood you have a perpetual licences for the OS your phone runs on. The point isn’t to get a piece of software that will be updated and supported forever, it’s to get something that works, fits your needs, and that you know can’t just be revoked at the whim of another. Problem is that last one is becoming increasingly untrue.

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41 points

Let them fight.

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4 points

Make them choose an individual champion and grant them trial by combat.

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12 points

The champion must be an officer of the company or a board member tho. No regular workers.

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2 points

100%

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40 points

Whoa battle of the mega corps

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Oh no. Anyway.

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I’m sure it’s different with enterprise contracts, but VMWare support was next to useless when I used to pay for it on 20 servers. Not once did a problem get solved, and some of them must have been pretty widespread bugs from what I recall.

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This seems to be common among most software/hardware vendors these days. I can’t get good support from Microsoft, Citrix, Juniper, Cisco, etc.

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I got good support from redhat, had an individual dev help out with a difficult openshift deployment.

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I never knew Microsoft even had support. Was part of a very large (worldwide) enterprise and remember the other teams complaining about lack of anything when trying to escalate issues.

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It’s not different really. Either it is obvious and you don’t need them or its your hardware vendor’s fault (according to them). Still better than Oracle’s software support, which is not a high bar.

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3 points

Did you try to reboot?

/s

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I have had to contact the vmware enterprise support several times and while it was tedious to do so, they always managed to help us out, including when we had datastore locked vhd’s after a storage crash.

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lol, company gets hosed by the same crap they do to consumers. “Lifetime” licenses aren’t lifetime.

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Not really the same thing. “Lifetime warranties” have for decades now referred to the lifetime of the product as stated in the warranty, not the lifetime of the consumer.

Any consumer still interpreting “Lifetime” in this context to mean “the rest of my life”, is just being stupid. Read the terms of the agreement before assuming you know what it protects…

“Perpetual licensing” on the other hand, is pretty clearly defined as “pay once, use forever”, so to sunset that agreement and start charging subscription fees is fraudulent.

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There have been instances of things like “lifetime licenses” or free services that were “free forever” that turned around and started subscription services. I hope this clarifies my intent, I did not indicate a “warranty”.

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Did it used to mean the consumers lifetime?

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It spans the lifetime of this nugget here.

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