Btw, bigotry does not need to be conscious or intentional or malicious to be real and cause harm, and you can be transphobic even when you’re not trying to or believe you’re are not
Btw, bigotry does not need to be conscious or intentional or malicious to be real and cause harm, and you can be transphobic even when you’re not trying to or believe you’re are not, just saying.
This is why educating people on what being trans actually is and dispelling a lot of harmful and ill-intentioned myths is key in combating transphobia.
People always say that there’s no point in talking to bigots and that they won’t listen to reason. But I actually think there will always be merits to open and honest discussion if bigotry comes from a place of ignorance and not of malice. And since we can’t know that for sure, open and honest discussions will always have at least some merit to them in my opinion.
Education is always the go-to way to combat these ideas. But of course, there will always be some people that will remain voluntarily ignorant. (And the other side, also wants to use it for the other way around.)
As said in another comment, I am cis and know nobody that isn’t. This of course leaves me with little outside of the wild west of the internet. For this I ask you, do you have any resource (books, documentaries, videos…) that can help me understand the concept better so I can be a better supporter?
@SSUPII @DigitalAudio the most useful resource I’ve come across is this Philosophy Tube video: https://youtu.be/AITRzvm0Xtg
That one thread of the dude saying he isn’t attracted to post-op trans men because he likes tits and the comment section that is just “trans people are too sensitive”. If you don’t wanna date trans people it’s fine. But being like “oh nooo, your boobs are gonna go away” is a joke
Oh, you saw that comment section too, huh?
Yeah it fucking sucks. I hope that it won’t become the norm for Lemmy’s 196.
Responding to you here because fuck that thread so much. I have no idea how someone can essentially say “Yeah I’d date a trans man if they didn’t have a masculine body” and see no issues with it. Fine with dating someone pre-transition because they’re who you want them to be and not who they want to be? It’s insane what “allies” say.
It was fucking gross.
People just openly calling “the majority of” trans people oversensitive and having a victim complex. Blegh <.<
I know, right?
Moss, if you’re reading this, do better. You might not consider that kind of rhetoric transphobic, but you don’t speak for all trans people here. And most of the trans members of this community who have spoken on this are talking about how uncomfortable it makes them feel to see this kind of shit being tolerated. For the love of god, do better.
Yeah idk if it’s just me but I’m getting weird vibes from the moderation here. First it’s the forcing every title to have the word rule, which wasn’t enforced in the original sub, and now this.
Lemmy’s 196 has been way more liberal than Reddit 196, and I’m really not a fan of it. Some of these comment sections are full of the “Not all men!” Crowd and it’s annoying AF.
Bsck when i used reddit i was told on 196 that I was being misogynistic when I, a trans man, talked about how I was receiving death threats irl after the Nashville shooting.
Within reason. A trans person can be as entitled or self centered as anyone else. Trans people, like all people, can take genuinely harmless content and interpret it wrong. Its normal, we all do it.
Nothing like seeing comments calling trans people the “Karens of the lgbtq community” with tons of upvotes to make you feel nice and welcome. Even the not transphobic person that the reports were about showed up to kindly let us know that every trans woman they know has a huge chip on their shoulder.
Edit: I remembered that this instance disables downvoting. This is the exact reason I’ve always been a fan of downvotes. If a mod won’t remove transphobic content, at least you know that the community around you disagrees with them.
Yeah, that thread is awful. The original comment it’s all about doesn’t even matter. That mod shouldn’t have posted something like that, the comment section is a great reason why. I do not know why 196 just randomly becomes cool with bigotry when it’s against trans people advocating for themselves. It’s all “Riots are cool, fight for respect!” until they have to reconcile with having a white, western, neoliberal worldview in the face of someone they hold power over.
They’re literally doing the Bo Burnham “Socko” bit without any of the irony.
