The author argues that Florida is struggling in many ways recently. Ron DeSantis’ handling of the COVID pandemic led to many preventable deaths in Florida, contradicting early articles praising his response. Now DeSantis is known more for his anti-gay and anti-science stances rather than effective governance. His campaign for president seems doomed to fail due to his lack of charisma and poor performance as governor. The author expresses sympathy for Florida residents dealing with the fallout of climate change, disasters, and poor leadership.
Sympathy? They voted for this, twice.
35% of the population turned out to vote. Of that 35, 59% voted for desantis, or 21% of the total population. A minority of people decided for the rest of us. I voted, and got out to encourage others to vote. Attended protests, events and generally tried to be active. Florida is a big state and most of us, despite the low turnout, didn’t and don’t want this man running our government. I hate what he’s doing to the state I was born and raised in, I’m being forced out of my home by inflation and growing hostility to my values. Say what you want about our government, but there are a lot of us who didn’t ask for this and tried out hardest to avoid it.
35% of the population turned out to vote.
So 65% 60.35% [edited to account for the provided evidence of voter suppression] of Floridians weren’t sufficiently motivated to try to change the government after living through a first DeSantis term.
Yes, yes, I know, “voter suppression”, “disenfranchised”, etc. I’m sorry if I have a hard time believing that 65% of FL really super-duper wanted to vote but were prevented from doing so by systemic corruption; that would put Florida in the same ballpark as Somalia in terms of governmental autocracy.
At some point, we just have to cut our losses and scram. That’s why I left Arkansas, and am now squished into a tiny, overpriced, neglected little apartment with a roommate in a blue state, slowly working on replacing all my stuff.
Yes, yes, I know, “voter suppression”, “disenfranchised”, etc. I’m sorry if I have a hard time believing that 65% of FL really super-duper wanted to vote but were prevented from doing so by systemic corruption; that would put Florida in the same ballpark as Somalia in terms of governmental autocracy.
you live in the United States, where an unelected panel of partisans make binding law on completely baseless grounds all the time and where universal voter enfranchisement happened so recently there are living people who could not vote because of their skin tone. i don’t know why you out of hand dismiss this as a possibility.
How Florida dems got their teeth kicked in when this is their competition is simply astounding
The Florida Dems just never stand for anything. They pick compromise candidates under the assumption that a compromise candidate will automatically equal votes, and then they don’t actually promote them because having a platform means the Republicans will call you a socialist.
2022 was a textbook example. The guy running against DeSantis was Charlie Christ, a former Republican governor that nobody liked because he was in charge during the Recession and did nothing to fix it. They got him to switch parties and made a big deal out of him being a moderate who switched parties, and then were shocked by the fact that moderate doesn’t automatically equal popular.
Meatballs opposition was former republican governor Charlie Crist. The dem candidate was about as lackluster as possible, to the point that I think it was almost intentional. At least on Crists’ part. We had Nikki Fried running for the seat too and she got pushed out in a similar fashion as Bernie did back in '16. I kind of get why many people weren’t racing to the polls last year but it still sucks and desantis was clearly an existential threat to the state. The FL Dems need to engage their younger base because this “lesser of two evils” crap is killing the country
This needs to be the loudest point made as part of any of it. Anyone in that state who is unhappy with how it’s going should probably vote. It’s so bizarre to me that people are watching this happen in their jurisdiction and still won’t get out there and do the bare minimum to change it. It’s beyond wild that DeSantis is being allowed to continue his destructive dealings with no notable resistance.
I remember a time when if an elected politician did something that enough of the population disagreed with, they were removed from office. I’ll have to go find the article.
I could not find the specific example I was thinking of, but the wiki on recalled politicians was good enough. It happens a fair amount. Since 2011, Florida has had 3 recalled politicians.
The problem is that a vocal minority (edit: majority, these days) of GOP voters care deeply about culture war FUD and reliably show up at the ballot box. In the meantime, large swathes of the Democratic base are just not seeing anything in the candidates who claim to speak on their behalf that inspires them to get out and vote.
Add a demographic tilt toward older voters who are easy to scare and have time on their hands to turn out and run the gauntlet of election day inconvenience, and this is what you get.
42.2%, or 3 million people, didn’t. You always have to remember that there are literally millions of people who desperately didn’t want this.
6 million registered voters didn’t even bother. One could argue that they’re just fine with, if not enthusiastic about, the current state of affairs. 4 million votes for, 3 million against, 6 million “Meh.”
I’ve been registered to vote in blue and red states and the barriers to vote in red states are so much higher. Lines are longer, in less convenient locations, registration has to be done earlier, and sometime they might not count your vote or purge a voter directory and you have to check yourself to see if that the case so you can correct it. It’s more than people can’t be arsed to vote; it is intentionally made as inconvenient as possible.
You’re missing a whole lot of people who don’t approve but are not served by the alternatives enough to get out there. You may disagree and say they should just vote for the lesser evil, but we see time and time again that just presenting people lesser evils is not effective. They need to have a positive reason to go vote FOR someone, not just negative ones to vote AGAINST someone.
Every group their administration is oppressing lives in the state as well, as well as plenty of innocent people who don’t belong to those groups. They’re all actual human beings living their lives and suffering under a government that actively targets them.
I’m sick of people damning those of us who live places with shitty governments for what they do. So many are assholes to people from the south or the midwest, when we’re the ones who suffer the most from their bullshit. Everywhere you look there’s some smug liberal talk show host or internet commenter cracking jokes about the stupidity of the people they claim to care about and how we’re all cousin-fuckers who deserve no sympathy. Instead of trying to feel superior over us because you know our states suck, have a damn heart.
Not sure why people in Florida are not just leaving in mass. Florida seems somewhat doomed as the result of climate change.
I’m very curious to see if the home and flood insurance companies beginning to exit the market will have any impact there. Once you have to actually start paying the true cost of living in a literal swamp, it gets a lot less attractive.
Generally speaking you cant just up and leave. You have a job, a house or apartment. You can just randomly find a job in another state at the drop of a hat and even if you can you might not be able to find a home. Then you have to factor in moving away from your family and friends and kid’s friends and their school and.
Unless you just have stupid money laying around no one can afford to uproot their entire life and just move somewhere else.
There hasn’t been a natural disaster that permanently destroyed an area.
One thing that Florida does well is disaster response; you don’t see the outright collapse of Florida communities like with what happened after Katrina in New Orleans. After that, communities generally get rebuilt quickly through both legal and extralegal means.
The big problem now is that the State of Florida is increasingly becoming the only home insurer for large parts of the state. The doom would likely come if a hurricane causes the state to go bankrupt.
Well according to Washington Post, they havent even finished the last hurricane; and this season is really going to pound flordia, honestly might not even be a state soon https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/07/17/florida-heat-wave-hurricane-ian-survivors/?wpisrc=nl_most
But the communities stayed or were able to come back relatively quickly. So people stayed, because they believe their communities will be rebuilt so it is worth it to stay.
That can start to change in a bad hurricane season, but there is still hope.
The problem isn’t that things get “permanently” destroyed, but that we let people keep re-building where there is only a matter of time before it gets taken out again.
Some places have higher risks, others have guarantees of outcome, the only unknown is the timeframe.
I recall a case from Norway where someone’s house was taken by what was deemed a “100-year” flood, ie. it’s only that large every 100 years.
The insurance company and the government was happy to have them rebuild in the same location only for it to be taken out by the next event 5-10 years later.
That’s not viable for anyone. Risk to life, and the cost to the society.
The house I grew up in is over 200 years old, and has been where it’s at for more than 130 years now.
It’s survived at least 10 hurricanes, and will likely stand there for another 100 years unless someone decides to tear it down or the water level rises too much. But at least it’s a good 20 meters above sea level.
It isn’t going to be politically popular for a community to support not rebuilding in case of a natural disaster. That community will take political measures to engage in self preservation.
The insurance market is leaving Florida and the government is stepping in.
poor leadership.
What leadership?
