Because they operate in bad faith and cannot be trusted.
This is true, but I think it’s even more simple than this.
They want a specific guy to win.
While we want specific policies to win.
If I wanted specific policies to win there’s nobody available to vote for. Unless you think “the one viable option that isn’t theocratic fascism or a reich” is a policy, since that’s what I’m voting for this year.
For clarity, are you suggesting that everyone who had qualms with Biden’s age was operating in bad faith?
Everyone who had qualms about Biden’s age and yet not trump’s is operating in bad faith.
I can’t speak for everyone, but why exactly would I care about Trump’s age? It’s certainly a liability for him, but I was never going to vote Republican anyway, whereas my likelihood of voting Democrat has only risen now that Joe has stepped down. Why on earth would I want to potentially inspire Republicans to start pushing for a more competent candidate who might have a better chance of being elected, while also beingore competent and able to do more harm if they were to win?
For media outlets reporting on this, sure, but I think you’re being overly general when talking about individual voters expressing reservations about the candidate being pushed by the party they will, in all likelihood, wind up voting for.
As far as I can tell, outside opinion columnists this position is entirely hypothetical.
Jesus fucking christ Lemmy has jumped the shark.
We criticized Biden because we wanted a shot at winning and he didn’t have one.
Trump as an opponent is the best shot Democrats have for winning. He’s deeply unpopular.
It’s shocking ho idiotic takes like this are.
They’re obviously talking about republicunts talking about Biden’s age. No one’s talking about you.
You’d understand it too once you stop being a perpetual victim.
To imply that everyone criticizing Biden’s age and mental competency was arguing in bad faith is complete bs. Anyone who has seen or heard him speak can rationally argue this man should not be president and will lose against trump. Anyone paying attention could reasonable say there are dozens of better candidates as the democratic nominee. I’m glad people spoke up otherwise this election looks far worse. This headline and the comment I replied to and deleted (the comment you are quoting here) is donor-class pissing
Wait, the people who criticized Joe Biden or the people who are claiming nobody has criticized Trump for his age?
Seems like this whole thread is just rage-bait.
The majority of people who objected to Biden were Democrats that wanted a better candidate because we were afraid that Biden would lose to Trump. The majority of Republicans can’t conceive of a universe where Trump ever loses an election so there hasn’t been an equivalently loud push on the GOP side.
Also, while I’d personally rather Trump be off the ballot entirely a fair chunk of democratic voters seem to think we’re better off with Trump on the GOP ballot than someone who is younger and may be better able to seem less openly deplorable. I disagree with that notion and also think Trump should step down because any chance that he wins the election is too high of a chance.
Basically, this article is drawing an equivalence between two very different situations.
Trump on the GOP ballot than someone who is younger and may be better able to seem less openly deplorable. I disagree with that notion and also think Trump should step down because any chance that he wins the election is too high of a chance.
I REALLY would hate to see a Harris v Haley election.
Harris would have it in the bag. Haley is a true believer in pro-life policies in a way that would really turn off independents. Haley is an absolutely awful national candidate and can only really thrive in regions where Christianity has a death grip on the electorate.
Trump’s agnosticism is actually one of his political strengths - it should be a weakness with his base but for some reason he’s viewed as the second coming of jesus fucking christ and I really don’t understand how the fuck those delusional religious folks managed to square that in their mind. Especially when it was Biden vs. Trump with Biden being a deeply religious and non-shitty Catholic.
The GOP is seriously unhinged right now… and every GOP politician who has called that out has been instantly destroyed… that’s actually another contrast of this article - Pelosi openly and really fucking brazenly called for Biden to step down, Johnson, Scalise… fucking McCarthy? Those clowns would never dare because unless they act as a group it’s political suicide.
for some reason he’s viewed as the second coming of jesus fucking christ and I really don’t understand how the fuck those delusional religious folks managed to square that in their mind.
That’s the neat part, they don’t. Cognitive dissonance is one helluva drug
They don’t see Trump as the second coming of Christ, they see him as more like another King Cyrus. It’s the idea that a ruler or other major figurehead can be a “vessel for God” benefiting the believers of a particular religion while not actually being a part of said religion or conforming to its morals.
Would the main MAGA group shift to support her? I don’t think you can just switch out cult leaders like that. How would she do with policy vs. Harris? What would be fascinating is having a race where someone is going to be the first woman President, regardless, so that is removed from the reasons for voting for them - which it shouldn’t be…I want someone who can be a leader, period. And for what it’s worth, Trump could have been a leader (not a great one, but one still), he got a few chances during his term, even soft ball ones. And he failed them all.
The Republicans are completely fucked without Trump and they know it. There is simply no other candidate that has any traction with their base let alone is able to galvanise it. This election is all about bringing out the vote and Trump is the only one who has a shot at that on the right.
Nikki Haley couldn’t win the GOP primary for the same reason Kamala Harris couldn’t win the Dem Primary. They’ve got these very fancy resumes built up through a lifetime of insider political brown-nosing and horse trading. But they were still trapped under the glass ceiling, by organizers and mega-donors that don’t respect women.
Hilary - for all her flaws - did “crack the glass ceiling” by hitting a critical mass of insider support that women, up until this point, hadn’t enjoyed. That won Harris a place on Biden’s ticket four years later as a kind-of concession to the PUMAs. But Haley was never going to manage it, because the racism and misogyny in her party is that much thicker. There is no large active feminist wing of the Republican Party.
I don’t think the GOP is realistically going to be able to put up a woman candidate unless the base of the party is drastically altered. Democrat insiders tolerate women, begrudgingly. Republicans hate them at a biblical level.
I also love the implication that it somehow wouldn’t be a massive waste of time for Democrats to go tell Trump he’s too old to run. Like how worthless is your time if you’re gonna spend it barking up the worlds dumbest tree. If I wanted to be ignored, I’d at least ask for something like no longer selling weapons to nations credibly accused of genocide.
I want Trump off the ballot (and planet) but I do think that another GOP candidate would have been much more likely to win.*
Public opinion on the current administration and the economy is negative to the point that one would expect the incumbent party to be facing an extremely uphill battle. But Trump is even more unpopular, brings a ton of baggage, energizes his opposition and alienates his allies by threatening democracy and the rule of law, says crazy nonsense that drives away independent voters instead of focusing on issues, and sabotages his own campaign through mismanagement.
* Of course, that would only have happened if Trump hadn’t run, since he would almost certainly have caused chaos and infighting if someone beat him in the primaries.
Are people really just now realizing he’s barely coherent? That’s why he got so much coverage 9 years ago in the first place. It’s been the #1 joke every fucking day for night show hosts since he rolled down that escalator to say Mexicans are rapists.
They never cared that about Bidens age, they just needed something to dislike him for. Notice they don’t have any policies they talk about. They just say Biden opened the border and is letting everyone in and it’s all his fault. Ignoring all evidence that arrests/detainments/returns are up, meaning they clearly aren’t just letting everyone in.
No, just liberals. It’s literally just a sports game to them. This is one of their funniest sneers because it’s so obvious why leftists don’t give a shit about Trump.
The reason, for the liberals reading, is because Donald Trump is not the DNC candidate for President of the United States of America.
Crazy, I know.
Nothing is disqualifying for a Republican candidate for president.
Except maybe, I dunno, having a plan for healthcare or housing affordability or something.
He has no plans at all except to bloviate like an idiot at any given opportunity, take massive dumps in his depends, avoid prison because he’s the president again, start up some concentration camps if he can stay off truth social that long, and cheat at golf.
If there is another crisis in the next four years (which is almost guaranteed because he’s also a moronic crisis generator and so are the dimwits that he’ll nominate to cabinet positions), he will handle that just as poorly as he handled COVID.
He’ll also probably die in office. In fact, I think the odds of him dying in office are far better than the odds of him coming up with a healthcare plan or a plan to increase housing affordability.
The orange arsewipe can be easily lead like Homer Simpson “Ohh, piece of candy. Ohh, piece candy. Ohh, piece of candy”.
It’s not just Republicans, but Republicans are notorious for their universal double standards that only one without shame can have.
To varying degrees, every single person has things in their life that they like, and no amount of accurate, undeniable, objective, information about it being bad/wrong/inefficient etc will change their mind unless they decide they want to.
There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans, which is a large part of why they now have a God king who wears diapers and has more fingers than functional brain cells.
There’s plenty of disqualifying traits for Republicans
What are they? This guy literally tried to overthrow the government. He openly courts Russian influence in elections. He openly admits to being easily corrupted and persuaded by individual campaign donors to the point of changing his entire position on the basis of what companies they own. He has been convicted of felonies. He has been convicted of fraud. He has been found in court to have sexually assaulted women. He had his charity organization shut down due to fraud. Many of his attorneys can no longer practice law because of the things he had them attempt in courtrooms. He conspired to bring fake electors to Washington DC. He sent love letters back and forth with a North Korean dictator. He bragged about assassinating a murder suspect in the Pacific Northwest. He’s incontinent. He’s unintelligible. He was impeached twice. He said “we’ll take the weapons first and then do process later”. He said of John McCain “I like people who weren’t captured”. He fucked a porn star while his wife was pregnant and then he paid the porn star off to cover up the story during the election. He mocks disabled reporters. He smells like a full diaper. He said he can “grab women by the pussy” because he is a star. He sold beans from the oval office because a Goya executive said they supported him. He called Nazis “very fine people”. He told the American public that “they’re looking into” injecting disinfectants in order to cure COVID. He refused COVID testing and then went on-stage for a planned debate with an active case of it. He wanted a military parade. During the passage of his meager working-person tax cut, he forced the US treasury to attach his signature to the checks. He’s fundamentally weird and never appears to laugh or ever even tell a coherent joke. He rarely even smiles. He likely gave secret documents to the Russians. He and his family used private email servers continually despite pretending that his political opponent deserved to be in jail for doing so. He complains constantly about the state of the country whether or not he is leading it. He does not appear to have a single friend in the world. Everyone who works with him winds up regretting it. He goes on strange rants where he speaks as if “the late great Hannibal Lecter” is or was an actual person that died. He lies about his mental and physical health. The list goes on and on and on.
Yet despite all of that…HE IS THE GOP NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT.
The guy is a walking version of “the aristocrats” joke.
As far as I can tell a disqualifying trait for the Democratic candidate for President is looking too old or letting out a “BYAAAAW” at a campaign event. So this isn’t exactly a “both sides” type of thing. One party’s candidates have to walk on water to barely win, while the other’s continually rack up absolutely absurd would-be dis-qualifiers and continue to be taken seriously by the media, the government, and the public.
A Republican isn’t gonna read that wall of text and neither am I, because it doesn’t matter.
Everything and more you listed Trump does doesn’t matter to his voters, because he’s gonna be super racist and super pro Christian and that’s literally the entire Republican voter Christmas list, so anything else is irrelevant.
He’s had a plan for healthcare (dismantling it) for nine years and did jack shit.
The donor class doesn’t really care about Trump’s mental (and psychological) issues, and really don’t even care much about Trump at all. They’re not actually supporting him - they’re supporting the handlers and advisers with which they intend to surround him, and the policies (and primarily Project 2025) that they intend to enact through him.
If anything, his incoherence is, to them, a benefit, since he’s just that much easier to manipulate. Since he can’t form a coherent thought on his own, he can be readily filled up with someone else’s ideas, just so long as they’re framed correctly.
He’s like a wind-up toy - all they have to do is feed him carefully crafted stories and get him wound up and pointed in the right direction, then just let him go.
If anything, his incoherence is, to them, a benefit, since he’s just that much easier to manipulate. Since he can’t form a coherent thought on his own, he can be readily filled up with someone else’s ideas, just so long as they’re framed correctly.
This is pretty much what was going on in the presidencies of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush too. I’m so sick of sharing a country with people who eagerly elect feeble-minded puppets… I guess because they find them relatable.
