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What point?

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The point is that Apple pushes out phones with outdated hardware at a premium price. That point is well illustrated here.

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I am confused, this is the second reply I get on a comment I deleted just after posting it.

I did so as I realized that I didn’t have the energy to debate my smartphone preference with random people online

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Maybe whatever app you’re using isn’t really deleting comments? It’s still showing up fine for me and gaining votes.

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It doesn’t look deleted to me.

How would one go about reading the logs on how federation worked in this case? I’m thinking lemmy.ml either missed it did not honor the delete from lemmy.zip

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This is happened to me before. I’ve noticed a delay in the federation such that sometimes comments recently deleted will still get votes or replies for a time. I speculate it’s because the deletion doesn’t get processed until the comment has finished being shared with other instances.

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By adding ‘this misses the point’ at the beginning you yourself made this a debate about the post, not your preference. You can spend whatever you want on stuff you want, but many people arent aware that apple is charging them twice what the device is worth, just because of their monopoly, and that was the point.

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outdated hardware

I think they prefer the term “time-tested.”

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I switched to iOS a few years back because I tried it for a week when my Pixel died, maintained a pros/cons list, and decided iOS works better for me.

The most eye-opening part switching “sides” is how cringe these types of Android users are. Just use what works for you and enjoy life.

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Exactly, which is why I deleted the comment just after I made it as I realized I didn’t have the energy to debate the issue

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I like the idea of Android stealing enough market share that Apple is forced to be more open.

The one that really blew my mind was the Find My network. Android tried to cooperate with Apple, and Apple stalled and dragged it out until Android gave up.

The effect was that Android got “Find My” about a year later than it would have otherwise, and the networks won’t be compatible. But isn’t Find My network compatibility relatively better for Apple? At worst there are places where Android and Apple devices split market share evenly. In most of the world, Android has the larger network/market share. Apple was willing to sacrifice that win to stall Android rolling out a major feature for a year.

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You’re lucky because, if it didn’t, you wouldn’t be able to change a single thing.

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Ah, but for only $200 more you can get USB 3.2, which is (…checks notes…) seven year old technology 😂 😭

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You mean like, with a cable? Eewwwww gross!

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This but unironically. Can’t remember one time when I needed or even thought about using a cable in my iPhone tenure.

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Product elitism is dumb.

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It was fun before… like 20 years ago. Now it’s just… eh. Apple users don’t care about any of that. They want a device that “just works” and has their ecosystem. They’re trapped in it, but eh, what’s the point. They aren’t going to convert, and after converting some people you learn you just become tech support for them.

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Seriously, does anyone think Apple users care about unlocked bootloaders and LDAC codecs? They want whatever the new iOS features are and their AirPods to work seamlessly.

I have an Android phone and an iPhone, and they both do pretty much the same thing. I can do some things with Android that iOS can’t, but it’s nothing an average user couldn’t do without, or even know they’re missing.

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To be fair i do care quite a bit about that. Phones just make bad computers to me. Small screen and half is used by a keyboard.

They seem designed to frustrate me so “it just works (most times)” is the only way i can stomach owning one.

I have a dream where apple is forced to make ios fully open source and where screen/input devices can freely stream any system/OS from a dedicated server.

Iphones are so “cleverly” dumb it makes them usable.

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I think even the average users are becomming aware because of how inferior iOS is. For example, all these things I’m going to mention below are doable on any Android (no root or bootloader required) since 2015 or even older versions while iPhone cant do shit:

iPhone cant temporarily disable apps, can’t prevent apps from using networks, cant disable system apps, cant open multi apps in mutli windows, cant location spoof, cant disable any system app or feature, cant customize themes or control anything in comparison.

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They’re also all made by heartless megacorps anyway. None of the companies are really ‘good’ just different forms of terrible.

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I‘ve used Android and iPhones for multiple years. Now I am using an iPhone and I am very happy. Main reasons are build quality and software. It just works. And the main advantage is primarily if you use multiple Apple devices. And since Android phones are expensive as fuck, too, I don’t care about the price anymore

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Except when the shitty ecosystem fucks with everyone else. Eg. when trying to get files from an iOS device to another phone. You need to use 3rd party software, which is almost exclusively shit on iOS and (at least in my school) no iPad kiddie managed to use local file sharing websites. The real kicker? Sharing stuff from the teachers iPad to the students does not work reliably either. Never. 20 students, and Apple can’t manage to transport shit. We resorted to uploading it to Teams - so much for Apple’s nice ecosystem for easily sharing files, which ends up taking 15+ Minutes.

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They’re trapped in it

Oh my god, you really believe that.

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They are as trapped as people are requiring Adobe products even though they fuck them as hard, or even harder, as apple.

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Well I’m trapped in it (purchased software, connected devices). The fence is knee-high at most though.

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Weirdly, a lot of them seem to care a whole lot about the color of their speech bubbles in their sms app

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I’ve seen people spend money on less I guess

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They want a device that “just works” and has their ecosystem.

i have friends that struggle to pay rent and they’re forced to pay apple’s extortion-esque prices when something goes wrong or when purchasing their phones and equipment.

witnessing them suffer like this hits close to home for me because i grew up poor enough to ration out the government cheese & powdered milk along with asking extended family and begging neighbors for food so that we could stay alive until next payday and also because i’m tech savvy enough to understand how unscrupulously apple has behaved at creating this well designed trap of an ecosystem that’s actively easy to fall into and passively difficult to leave; locking my friends into a seeming perpetually repeating cycle of new iphones and government cheese.

i think that the icing on this shit-cake is that they’re all atleast vaguely aware that apple is screwing them over; but they still accept it because it either “just works” or it’s “all they know” and that blows my mind because 5-year-old-me HATED government powdered milk in my cereal enough to switch to oatmeal for breakfast if it were an option.

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This isnt elitism, this is trying to show apple users they are being scammed. Sure, most of them are happy that way, but maybe some of us should have higher standards for ourselves

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Youre right, unfortunately the popular alternatives are not great, either.

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So you dislike Apple, then? All they do is product elitism.

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Yeah.

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And yet every time Apple announce a new product or feature, Android fans are here with their ‘welcome to the past’ memes.

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Not to be an unfunny nitpicker (I don’t know why I’m denying this, that kinda the whole point), but all iphones do have lossless audio streaming via AirPlay. I’m assuming that you specifically meant Bluetooth streaming, but then you should’ve said so. Furthermore, normal aptx isn’t high resolution, only aptx HD and aptx adaptive are. The phone does support aptx HD as well, but once again, you could’ve said so from the start (though 3 characters more or less might make a significant difference to most memes, this one certainly wouldn’t have had that problem)

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The absence of aptx is baffling though, given that macOS has supported it for a decade. Same with LDAC, since the encoder does not require license fees to implement.

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