I almost chocked on my coffee in the first 20 seconds :)

6 points

Sony saw the incredible success of the Stadia and is moving in that direction.

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Who is this guy and why should I care what he says?

Edit: Since no one could answer it. He’s an indie developer and made a few games. Silver Falls, Clasherball, and Animelee. He also says he’s a consultant, based on the video, but I couldn’t find anything of him doing that.

So he’s slightly a step above a regular guy making some video complaining.

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3 points

He says in the video. He’s been a marketing consultant for some really big companies. No one is better to talk about poor marketing decisions than someone who does it for a living and for big companies. And his iew point aligns closely with what most people are thinking.

Tbh you can decide for yourself how valid what he says it. Just watch the video. Its only short but it makes alot of sense.

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2 points

I did watch the video. It’s why I asked. Anyone can say they are a consultant, and he doesn’t really mention much to back that claim. He doesn’t say anything novel either.

I’m not trying to be hypercritical, but if someone says that they are a credible source I want to know why.

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1 point

But he is just giving an opinion. Sure if you want to scrutinise then his credentials matter but for the sake of this video we should take it at face value as its not like he is going to be taken seriously by sony. But echoing an opinion shared by many is important with the small platform he has.

Looking at his channel it looks like he makes games for nintendo. And it would appear he has done other work outside of that field.

If more people in the industry follow suit or if this gets more people talking about sonys terrible decisions then im all for it.

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Who are you and why should I care what you write?

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1 point

Sure I can answer that for you.

A regular guy, and you don’t have to.

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I regret buying a PS5 at all. I haven’t been a PSN subscriber for over three years at this point and I don’t feel inclined to be in the future. All the games my friends and I play are on PC and really the only game worth a damn is Astrobot, which is far and away the most fun platformer game I’ve played and is the sole game to justify that console purchase lol.

I echo the other comments here saying this generation is a waste, it really is and there is nothing really to be gained by getting the latest and “greatest” console today. Maybe it’s just a sign of the times that consoles just don’t have that much pull like they used to, unless they’re portable like the Steam Deck or Switch.

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2 points

The PS 5 price was very reasonable, considering how expensive it was to build a PC at that time, now the PS5 Pro is a completely different beast and I do agree it makes very little sense.

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This thing is expensive, and I probably won’t get one.

But the Panasonic 3DO cost $700 in 90s money and that thing sucked ass, so this price isn’t something we’ve never seen before.

Sony does need to read the room, though. It’s a bit of a bad look.

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Ah, the 3DO. So much hype from Trip Hawkins.

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I think Sony is trying for bankruptcy. With that whole PSN thing with, which game was it, Helldivers? Just…who would ever buy anything from Sony ever again?

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3 points

Prices have changed since then, tvs were serious investments that ate up a significant portion of your income. It was a different consideration back then.

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40 points

I’m not buying the pro, the PS6 or the next Xbox series console.

This gen felt like a waste of money to me, with only minute differences at a huge cost.

I’ll wait until 4 years into the new console gen to decide.

Until then, I have my pc and my 7800xt Nitro+

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5 points

Make no mistake, the 4 pro to the 5 is a huge upgrade. The disk read time from nvme alone is worth the upgrade. But the 5 to 5 pro doesn’t really seem like it would be worth buying another console. The 6 might be worth a replacement, but who knows. That’s 4 years away.

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10 points

This gen felt like a waste of money to me, with only minute differences at a huge cost.

Nah, SSDs are a massive upgrade, even ignoring everything else.

I could never go back to the spinning disk hard drives.

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Specifically m.2 nvme. The 4 had ssd drives. The 5 has nvme form factor which is 600-700% faster read/write than Sata drives.

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Agreed. SSDs are insane. I have every console from the 2600 to the PS3wii360 but stopped at the PS4 Gen because they were terrible.

The PS5 is a wonderful machine (but I’m still only a computer bitch forever now)

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7 points

PS4 was fantastic! So many great games pushing the system to it’s absolute limits like God of War, RDR2, and Bloodborne. Now with the PS5 we get games like God of War 2, Spider Man 2, and Elden Ring. And you can play them all on the PS4. But no, let’s release a PS5 pro before even scratching the surface of what the PS5 is capable of

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4 points

To be fair, the PS5 was the worst investment I made last year. I did never buy a PS4, I own PSX, 2 and 3 tho.

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6 points

It feels like PS3 was the biggest leap in technology. I loved my PS3, and had a ton of games for it. Since then it’s been incremental, faster loading times, incrementally better graphics, and such. The PS5 makes loading screens on Bethesda games tolerable to me

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25 points

“Minute differences” is a bit absurd. It may have been a bit too long since you’ve booted up your PS4.

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I stopped after the PS3wii360 but I have to say, the PS4 was legit garbage that took FOREVER to load and played like poo (hence why I stopped) but I gotta admit the base PS5 and Xbox whatever are FANTASTIC machines. The AMD video chips and SSDs make a heck of a difference.

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6 points

PS3wii360

That’s pronounced “pthwee sixty”

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That’s really the key. The PS4 and even Pro were fighting for their lives by the end of the generation. Anyone who claims the upgrade to a PS5 was “minute” is lying to themselves about their jet engine PS4

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We gained ssd drives sure, I agree that’s a great improvement.

But 4k30 still feels like a minute upgrade as it’s not native 4k.

Forget about the stated 8k on the PS5 box, lol.

What else did we gain… Less battery life for the controller (but the haptics are great).

More thumbstick drift.

Maybe, 8 exclusives? 12?

Not worth it to me.

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Yes besides all of the brand new hardware that improved load times dramatically and can reliably play games at 60fps without blowing out your eardrums due to fan noise, the best new controller to hit the market since the first rumble pak, and all the new games to play on it, it didn’t improve much… lol

You better settle in bucko because I have some bad news, it only gets more incremental from here.

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0 points

Nah, better lighting doesn’t do a damn thing to make a game more fun. The only notable difference that even matters is better load times.

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8 points

Well from that perspective literally any upgrade at all is entirely pointless and a waste of money. There’s no point upgrading from your Nintendo 64. None of the games made possible by any console since can truly make any games inherently more fun, it’s all just graphical and performance enhancements.

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I think I am going to go Xbox next time around for console games. The PS5 has been a let down in terms of game selection and overall improvements. I actually get mad when I go to look at games in the store and the ads and clips are blurry and low res because Sony dont invest in their backend to stream at a decent resolution.

I bought a meh pc yesterday because Im going to use that moving forward, pay for myinternet once and use it when I want.

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If you think the ps5 game selection is bad wait till you see what xbox doesn’t have. And everything exclusive to xbox is on PC. Sony has been absolutely mopping the floor with xbox this gen, which is probably why they think people will spend $700 in the pro.

And how’s your internet? Because I’ve never thought the videos on the store were bad enough to complain about. Might not be 4k but its never been blurry for me.

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I have had the same issue with 10gb and 1gb internet. Their store has terrible optimisation even though they baked it into the ps5.

Sony puts their games on PC too, I just dont want to support them anymore. I will probably go pc fulltime. I stopped with Nintendo too because of how badly they sucked.

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I would have considered a new console if I could follow the naming convention. this pro and series whatever nonsense is too confusing for someone who isn’t plugged into console generations anymore.

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4 points

It’s difficult for you to follow that 5 is higher than 4 and that Pro is better than non-Pro? Seriously?

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10 points

Ok, xbox is confusing with the one, one x, series x. Etc But PS is PS5 and ps5pro. And I guess whether you want a disc drive.

PS has kept their naming consistent enough that it’s not hard to figure out. Ps4 and ps5 are obviously different gens, one x series x doesn’t inform you in any way what’s better.

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