GOP lawmakers and analysts virtually unanimous that Trump was second best to Harris in first presidential debate

Donald Trump’s campaign was in damage control mode on Wednesday amid widespread dismay among supporters over a presidential debate performance that saw Kamala Harris, his Democratic opponent, repeatedly goad him into going wildly off-message and missing apparent opportunities to tackle her on policy.

Even with Trump insisting to have won the debate “by a lot”, Republicans were virtually unanimous that Trump had come off second best in a series of exchanges that saw the vice-president deliberately bait him on his weak points while he responded with visible anger.

The Republican nominee – who took the unusual step afterwards of visiting the media spin room, a venue normally frequented only by candidates’ surrogates – was non-committal on Wednesday to the Harris campaign’s proposal for a second debate. Despite widespread opinion to the contrary, Trump suggested she needed it because she had lost. “I’d be less inclined to because we had a great night. We won the debate,” he told Fox & Friends.

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Also, I forgot to ask about this last night…

“Where is he?” Trump asked. “They threw him out of the campaign like a dog.”

Does Trump think you just kick dogs out of your home and they go away?

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Does Trump think you just kick dogs out of your home and they go away?

If you live near immigrants, yes.

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Hide yo dogs, hide yo cats. They eatin erybody around here.

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12 points

I understood that reference.

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They climbin in yo window they snatching yo kitties up. Tryna eat them…

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That’s one of his go-to turns of phrase, and like all his go-tos he grinds it into dust through overuse. Apparently, he is not a dog person.

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12 points

Probably would be if it was slathered in ketchup

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8 points

“It’s always projection.” 🤣

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It’s also why he wasn’t allowed around the family pets as a kid.

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Where is he?

Dunno, prolly running the country or smth. 🤷‍♂️

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At the same debate, Trump also claimed that he was thrown out of office, that he doesn’t know whether or not he’s alive and that Kamala Harris IS Joe Biden.

So I don’t think he actually knows that.

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Trump hates dogs.

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Because dogs hate Trump. They can smell the gross.

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Yes, but more to the point, he doesn’t understand them or what people do to them. You can hate dogs to the point that you kick every dog you see, but you’ll still likely understand that if you throw a dog out of the house, the dog won’t usually leave and never come back.

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He just genuinely can not conceive of someone withdrawing voluntarily.

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New headline: Republicans dismayed Trump literally did exactly what everyone knew Trump was going to do

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… And They Will Still Vote For Him

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GOP lawmakers not the voter base.

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Yes. They will still vote for him.

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Right? I think the expectation of everyone else was what we got on display.

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Second best?! Really? Now we think participation trophies are fine? Ok whatever.

As for the aftermath of the debate. I like it. I enjoy that orange fuck getting made fun of and the memes are superb. But as expected, he could have yanked his pickle out and jerked off live on TV and his cultists would still defend him. I am 100% sure that this would have been the case. And there still would be people who are undecided!

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I think it’s more of a mushroom, but point taken.

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5 points

According to Stormy Daniels it looks like Toad

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Undecideds are fake by and large this time around. Just media bullshit or liars getting airtime.

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I listened to a podcast that interviewed “undecideds” in swing states.

It’s was just absurd. They seem to be conservatives trying to make themselves feel more logical and intelligent.

One of them said that he was disappointed Harris didn’t seem to have a week developed plan for the economy, because he had doubts about her financial outcomes, but didn’t about trump.

It’s just absurd to me that anyone could spend more than a few seconds considering Trumps economic plans and conclude that he’s a sensible economic manager.

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2nd best is a turn of phrase, an old one. It’s an insult. You must not be very well read.

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I read your comment very well, and I find it to be second best.

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Only 2nd, not 3rd?

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What kind of lame equivocation is “second best?” If he’s “second best” in a debate with two people, then that means HE LOST.

Are these GOP lawmakers and analysts so spineless and beholden to Trump that they cannot discuss this as just one more - in a long list - of his failures?

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It wasn’t that long ago when Republicans complained about participation trophies and how, at sporting events in schools, the ones who did not win still were acknowledged for their effort. They were complaining that it would make children weak, not want to compete, not give their best effort if they got recognition without being the top dog.

Now they demand their participation trophy and it better come with tendies!

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Are these GOP lawmakers and analysts so spineless and beholden to Trump that they cannot discuss this as just one more - in a long list - of his failures?

Yes :)

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They probably don’t want their inboxes filled with bomb and rape threats from the very domestic terrorists they radicalized.

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I have hope that they will not learn from these mistakes and will therefore keep making them. I hope that hope is not misguided.

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I hope the crazies crash and burn and a reasonable, rationale alternative is made available to voters. Then Democrats will actually have to try instead of relying on “if you don’t vote for us the Dictator wins.”

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It’s worse than that. They think that toeing the line and refusing to deviate is the strong position to take here. Always has been.

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Kamala’s campaign: we’re going to bait him at the debate.

Trump’s staff: she’s going to try to bait you.

Everyone: Kamala is going to bait Trump.

Trump: LOOK! BAIT! NOM

They specifically tried to prepare him for this, they knew it was coming, and this was the result. How can he possibly be prepared to meet with world leaders?

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