they add fentanyl to your previous vaccines!
I once heard of a pediatrician who successfully convinced a concerned mother that anti-vax ideology was likely a psyop by the Russians to weaken the health of the American populace starting with our children. Doesn’t hurt that it’s probably true.
EDIT: My personal conspiracy theory is that the Chinese government did engineer (or at least selectively cultivate) COVID, but not to kill Americans. In the early days of the pandemic there was some speculation that it affected some blood types more than others, particularly type A. While no link to blood type specifically was found, type A is a more common genetic trait as you move out of Asia and towards the middle east. China has been heavily persecuting the Uyghurs (Chinese Muslims), and those who have managed to get out of the camps have reported medical experimentation and being injected with unknown substances. In addition, the virus would also kill a significant number of the older population, which is important because of the population crunch they’re about to experience due to one-child policies resulting in a high amount of female-specific infanticide. They’re about to have a bunch of old people and a massive shortage of able bodied young people to care for them. Even if they didn’t directly “engineer” the virus in a gene-sequencing manner, they have a lot off motive to just generally cultivate and spread (you can’t really “breed” a virus) an infectious disease targeting people of middle eastern descent and elders.
Thank you for coming to my tinfoil-hat Ted Talk.
The reason I absolutely believe this to be true? Because I’ve used this on my little brothers since we were kids. I’m 45.
It’s called “reverse psychology.”
It’s a bizarre and (afaik) unfounded conspiracy theory, but I don’t think this reasoning works as a refutation. It’s still very possible that the experiment got out, and even if not they still needed policies to protect all the people they didn’t want to be affected because the targeting isn’t perfect.
How are China’s stringent lockdowns explained in this conspiracy theory? Also, where do I sign up as a member?
Well you can’t not do that, especially not if you’re already known for doing that kind of thing anyway for other things.
A repressive regime that becomes less repressive during a global pandemic is highly suspicious. Gotta keep up appearances.
Can confirm this is true because the same was true for my mum. She was against the COVID vaccine, but then she started believing that the theories were started by the Chinese government to target people who don’t listen to the authorities.
That doesn’t change the distribution of demographics by itself. Even assuming the birth rate skyrocketed after the nixing of the one child policy, it takes ~20 years before those people are working age.
The big problem China faced and why the one-child policy was abandoned after all is that there was a staunch focus on having a male child to “keep the bloodline alive” (cultural reasoning) which led to a stagnation in the 0-14 years age group due to an overpopulation with males. This is not fixed by killing off your elderly.
Covid was most deadly for the age group of 65 and above and in 2019, they had proportionally less people aged 65+ than the US (13.50% in China vs. 16.4% in the US). Either China’s scientists failed immensely or the virus stemmed from bad hygiene practices in livestock markets selling bats.
My personal conspiracy theory is that the Chinese government did engineer (or at least selectively cultivate) COVID
The theory I’d believe more is that the U S of A govt or one of its agencies engineered and released it in China.
China and India are growing economies, with decent populations and a pandemic would seriously delay their growth and help the U S of A keep it’s top place for a bit longer or destroy its competitors.
I’ve heard the theory being given decent thought by non-western people. And it’s equally, if not, more believable than the other one.
The US is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons on civillians, so them using biological weapons on civillians would not be a big moral barrier for them or a big stretch to think about.
They probably didn’t think it’d spread this much and their own citizens n even president would be idiotic enough to be against vaccines and masks, when people were dying.
The US is the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons on civillians, so them using biological weapons on civillians would not be a big moral barrier for them or a big stretch to think about.
That’s such a small stretch that it’s actually a confirmed fact that the US has repeatedly used chemical and biological warfare. Korea and Vietnam are merely two easy examples.
The theory I’d believe more is that the U S of A govt or one of its agencies engineered and released it in China.
They did a stupid ass job them, killing the older only gonna help China, and it didn’t even killed enough people to make a difference and it backfired in the US, the conspiracy that China was engineering with it and shit escaped make more sense
They did a stupid ass job them
They probably didn’t expect their president to be idiotic enough to be against vaccines and recommend stuff like bleach.
They’re a developed nation and could’ve had better control.
They were able to hinder Chinese trade a bit.
And didn’t they try and fail to kill Castro in many stupid ass ways?
I think them doing it is more likely than China doing it to their own, considering the trade issues that the virus caused for China at the time.
And again, they were the first to use nuclear weapons on civillians. Did it twice even.
I don’t think they’d have an qualms about using biological weapons, if they thought that it’d give them an edge.
They also can float the ‘China virus’ conspiracy to confuse the public and make them anti-China too.
I understand your desire to defend communism.
But really, how far does an authoritarian regime have to go, while calling itself communist, before you judge them?
What evidence would change your mind about the CCP?
I was banned from /r/latestagecapitalism for not loving China. Anytime I tried to explain why I do not unconditionally love everything about China, they said “but USA?” Dude, I don’t care about USA. It’s thousands of kilometers away from where I live. Everything I said was interpreted as defending USA. I say “China does this” they hear “USA doesn’t do that”. There are other countries in the world, you know, not everything is about USA. End of rant :)
Where did I defend the CCP or communism?
(I do fully support communism and have critical support for China, but that’s not the question here)
What evidence would change your mind about […]
Show me evidence that the Uyghur are being persecuted
“Moon landing was fake!!!” “You still believe the moon is real?”
I once got on the topic of the moon lending with a creationist co-worker. He said he wasn’t sure, but that if it happened we should be able to see it from satellite pictures. So I said “yeah you can”, pulled it up, and zoomed in on a landing site. You couldn’t see footprints or anything, but you could see the shadow of the flag next to clearly man-made debris
I showed him exactly what he agreed would be proof in a difficult to fake form, and it just temporarily nudged the needle for him
Now, I fight conspiracies with the opposite conspiracies.
Earth is a 4D hypersphere, the earth isn’t hollow, Agatha is just another part of the surface reached by holes
The elites are hiding all the best vaccines, like the ones that cure cancer
I recently watched “Brief history of the Wrong Earths” by Hardcore Sci-Fi, not many of these are well known so you could have so much more ammunition for fooling around like that with people.
“flat earth? Nah, it’s expanding bro! Oh wait actually it’s 9 hollow earths one in another!”
This was highly effective when I used it in real life.
The conspiracy theorist got real mad demanding I name sources, I kept telling him to find it on the internet with fake search terms.
My best friend has an unnatural talent for this sort of thing and really enjoys toying with conspiracy theory nuts.
When folks start talking about crazy shit, it makes me very anxious and I tend to shut down. Not my buddy. He eggs them on, encourages it, and gets them to say things or agree with things that are even more outlandish than where they conversation started. Things will start at “China invented covid to kill off old people” and somehow end up at “Hillary Clinton paid to have her chromosomes added to the covid vaccines so that DNA evidence can no longer be used against her in the courts”.
I think that basically is yeah. Then, when they saw that it had gathered a following, admins on a #chan who were pro-Trump and think that they’re super smart because they use Haskell took over to pump up fringe support.
Yeah, but how do I know that what you just wrote isn’t another conspiracy theory? I’m just so confused
I fondly remember reading a comment in /r/conspiracy on a post claiming a geologic seismic weapon brought down the towers.
It just tore into the claims, citing all the reasons this was preposterous bordering on batshit crazy.
And then it said “and your theory doesn’t address the thermite residue” going on to reiterate their wild theory.
Was very much a “don’t name your gods” moment that summed up the sub - a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.
As long as they only focused on generic memes of “do your own research” and “you aren’t being told the truth” they were all on the same page. But as soon as they started naming their own truths, it was every theorist for themselves.
a lot of people in agreement that the truth was out there, but bitterly divided as to what it might actually be.
This has been my take.
They’re not there for the truth. They’re there for validation.
It’s ego powered with insecurity jetfuel, still can’t melt steel beams tho.joke
