172 points

Have they not heard of the TS100 or the Pinecil?

Both run an open-source firmware and work with any USB-C PD battery pack and still allow you to configure the temperature.

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107 points

Considering that they sell one of those, I’m going to assume they’ve heard of it. ;)

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It’s very likely existing smart soldering pens were the inspiration.

iFixit even mentions they didn’t include a screen like the Pinecil because most people don’t actually mess with the settings that much when they are on the go.

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26 points

What they probably meant is they didn’t include a screen because this way they can sell their overpriced battery pack.

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19 points

Those look pretty cool.

But I’m confused about the marketing around the cpu/ram, etc. Does that really matter for a soldering iron? (Serious question, not being snarky).

I get they’re using that tech to make it adjustible/smart, but it’s a soldering iron, not a pocket computer.

Is there some way those specs genuinely matter? Or is it just to say “we’re using the latest tech to provide controls”?

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Smart soldering irons have been around a while, so yes. It is now like a PC and specs matter a little.

One advantage smart irons have is being able to give you a readout of the exact temp of the tip of your soldering iron, something a traditional iron cannot do.

It also needs chips and sensors to do things like auto-off when it is set down.

So the quality and speed of chips affects performance.

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3 points

Sounds like marketing foo.

I have a 10+ year old Weller station with digital temp adjustment, and I don’t recall it having a cpu and ram.

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15 points

This

you’ll need to grab the FixHub Power Station, the company’s new 55Wh battery pack.

Why bother with that when I can use my personal power bank that uses standard easily swappable/replaceable 18650 batteries? (remember those?)

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I love my Pinecil V2. It was cheaper than my 40W entry level Weller station and heats up way faster. I run it off my Anker USB power supply and also my Anker USB power bank. The power bank only outputs 30 or 40 watts though so I might upgrade that in the future. High wattage power banks are expensive though :/

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15 points

Have they not heard of the TS100 or the Pinecil?

Of course they have.

An iFixit co-founder has been responding to questions over on Hacker News:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41521919

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7 points

That Pinecil has a 30 day warranty? Not a lot if confidence in the longevity of their product.

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4 points

Here in Europe it is sold with a 2 year warranty, but it also cost nearly three times as much (65 euro vs 25,99)

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2 points

My pinecil has lasted for years.

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6 points

It very much sounds like ifixit are actively asking influencers/reviewers to compare it to at least one of those in the videos.

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8 points

Which is a little odd to me, since I don’t think it compares favorably vs either. Maybe against the ts80p because it’s significantly lower wattage and more expensive than the other two.

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11 points

The TS80P is lower wattage, technically, but the heating element is right up at the very tip, instead of having a heating element inside the handle with a long metal piece transmitting the heat. It gets hot way faster than you’d expect, it doesn’t feel like 30W at all.

It punches way, way above its weight. Unless you’re soldering pipes, comparing the wattage to traditional irons is misleading. Love that tiny thing.

Only problem is that this design necessitates proprietary tips that are relatively expensive. Not a fan of that, coming from the no name Global South Especiale 2$ firestarter irons that are the norm where I am. Not the end of the world, but worth keeping in mind.

The one I bought came with a USB-C cable that couldn’t handle the current though. That was the only real red flag. Shame too, that cable seemed like it was silicone coated and would have been ideal.

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3 points

Ts80 that runs on qc3 is also very good. It keeps up with my large soldering station in real world use

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83 points

Pinecil is 26$ and has a screen.

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You’re probably adding $25-35 to that for a USB-C power supply that can handle it, but yes, it’s cheaper than this. $50-75 if you want it battery powered.

But yeah, I’m not sure what iFixit is bringing to the market that’s better than what exists.

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5 points

The Pinecil uses a standard tip as well. So, you can get cheap ones on aliexpress. That’ll pay for it for me tbh.

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2 points

It’s 80$ and doesn’t include a battery. But the ifixit one does include a USB cable and a bevel tip (cone tips are bad)

So it’s more like $26 plus $4 for pine USB cable, plus $6-11 for a ts100 bevel tip. $41 vs $80

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3 points

I use a pinecil and it’s great. Tips are cheap and a standard size, it takes usb-c power and has a good user interface.

Not really sure what ifixit is trying to accomplish with this overpriced iron.

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2 points

Pine have so many neat things.

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25 points

For 250 dollars. iFixit is turning to the Apple of repair.

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That is pricey… However, as someone who has an ifixit toolkit that contains just about every shape and size of screwdriver bit ever imaginable (and several that defy explanation), it has been the most useful tool I have ever purchased. I can’t even count how many times I’ve used it.

And the quality is outstanding.

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16 points

I’ll gladly pay a premium for something that will be “buy it for life” or at least last decades. Phones and computers have inherent obsolescence, but most tools don’t. I don’t buy chinesium tools, I buy reputed European, American, or Japanese tools, the lifetime stuff.

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5 points

same. no more knuckle busters for me. I’ve got spanners that are 20 years old that I bought, not inherited.

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12 points

Soldering stations that are fixed to an outlet are also expensive. It’s not a cheap tool kit. If it is cheap, it’s a garbage iron that will likely do the job but you will struggle.

I’m trying to buy one for work and every station worth considering is easily over 200 dollars US.

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10 points

Does it matter if the products last longer than an apple product and can likely be repaired?

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2 points

Of course it does, I was talking more about price than repairability.

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5 points

Just curious what do you think a reasonable price would be for this product?

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19 points

So basically a copy of the battery pack T12 devices from China. Well done. You fixed an already fixed problem.

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35 points

Tying a rechargeable battery to a single function device seems off-brand for iFixit.

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20 points

It’s a multi-use battery.

The battery can be used to charge whatever you want. A phone, laptop, headphones, or anything else with USB. Also, the battery is user replaceable and the product repair diagrams are posted online.

IMHO, it looks like they’re practicing what they preach, and it’s all designed for longevity and right to repair.

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7 points

I edited my original post. Thanks for bringing the pie!

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