Donald Trump’s debate performance was far worse than even his inner circle anticipated.
While Donald Trump’s team is publicly pushing a postdebate victory lap, many in his camp were privately disappointed in the Republican candidate’s performance on Tuesday.
CNN’s Kaitlan Collins reported Wednesday night that several Trump insiders were “stunned” by his poor performance and by just how easily he fell for all of Kamala Harris’s attempts to provoke him.
“I’m told that as soon as Donald Trump exited that debate stage, he immediately began quizzing those waiting in his viewing room about how the last 90 minutes had gone,” said Collins. “While several people praised him to his face, telling him they did a great job, that’s not what a lot of them are saying privately today.
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Apparently, all that practice with members of his team, such as former Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard, had ultimately amounted to very little when it came time to debate.
Considering his rapidly deteriorating mental faculties and the fact that’s he’s surrounded himself with yesmen; he probably really believes that he did well in that debate.
A person like this does not have inner reflection the way you’re imagining. I vouchsafe this fact to you: he sought external validation immediately, real and imagined, and then moved on to the next pissing contest without ever thinking genuinely about his choices leading up to that display
Spot on. I’ve read 10,000 comments regarding Trump that miss the most basic aspect of the man: Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Everything he says or does flows from this.
I don’t mean narcissist in the way most people sling the word around, I mean the actual mental illness. People slap that title on anyone selfish, lying or bullying. No, words have meaning.
No he doesn’t have any sort of internal reflection. My mother suffered NPD, I can tell you all about it. She didn’t have the mental space to consider, “Am I wrong?”. Such thoughts were literally impossible, her brain could not work that way. In the 50-years I knew that woman I never heard her admit fault or apologize. Not once. That’s pretty stunning if you think on it a few. And Trump makes mom look positively of sound mind!
Nothing the man says or does surprises me, yet people continue to be appalled. We keep trying view his thought processes through the lens of our own. Nah. That dog don’t hunt.
Nmom kid here too, you’re spot on. It’s actually fascinating if you forget the horrors. Like for example no empathy, and not like very very very low (hi dad!) empathy, but totally devoid of it. Just ‘cannot compute’ level.
Hope you’re doing fine btw!
I’m not entirely sure he doesn’t stew on this.
Hitler, famously, obsessed over negative news coverage/press about him. Even to the point where he threatened violence/war with New York if they didn’t redact a column about him being a wannabe dictator.
Trump is the same kind of narcissist Hitler was, and gets similarly obsessed with negative press about him.
I agree that I doubt he’s reflecting on this, but he’s absolutely aware the rest of the world thinks he screwed up and that’s why he thinks they’re lying. Because everyone else around him says he won, so how could, literally every news agency, including Fox Entertainment “news”, say Kamala beat him?
But he is absolutely pissed and stewing in his own piss right now at all the negative coverage after his debate performance.
There is one exception to the “Trump hates negative press” that I’d like to note. When Dr. Fauci was called to meet with Trump after he corrected him on live TV about drinking bleach, he found Trump in his office saying “My god these ratings are amazing, they’re better than cable”. Oddly enough sometimes Trump sees any news is good news so long as he’s the main focus.
The times I’ve seen him really go off is when the news cycle stops paying attention to him.
I’m sure he doesn’t even care that people are mocking him about it, the fact that everybody is talking about “concepts of a plan” and “they’re eating the cats” is still a victory in his mind. Good attention or bad attention doesn’t matter, attention for the sake of attention is the only thing he cares about. Nobody is really talking about anything specific Harris said or did, she didn’t really have any really breakout moments that I can recall after having watched it, it was just Trump being a jackass and saying dumb shit.
“Several of them told CNN they were stunned that the former president failed to do a better job executing on the talking points that he had been preparing with his team for weeks against Vice President Harris, her record, her policy reversals.”
Apparently, all that practice with members of his team, such as former Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard, had ultimately amounted to very little when it came time to debate.
Oh please. If there is a trump “insider” who thinks for one hot second this demented chattering rapist can stay on message without large-type notes and a shock collar, then they’re as big an idiot as they sound.
It’s amazing to me that anybody on his team was shocked he did so poorly. It just indicates to me that they’re absolutely shit at their jobs. Being a good advisor requires you to be able to recognize the difference between reality and fantasy, and anybody who thought Trump would do well in this debate after spending any amount of time actually listening to him has failed this most basic of tests.
I’m surprised that he did so well in the debate, actually. I mean, he still got absolutely bodied, but no microphones picked up the sound of him shitting himself this time, so he’s already showing an improvement over his debate performance with Biden.
Edit: it just occurred to me that Trump randomly shitting himself could be the reason his team were so gung ho for muted mics: it means that there’s 50% less chance he’ll drop a deuce while near a hot mic. If so, that’s a great strategy on their part.
He did fine. He likely lost precisely zero votes. There was nothing for him to lose. It’s not like cult members watch their cult leader in a debate and then go “oh I guess I’ll leave my cult.” People leaving cults often literally have to go through a process of deprogramming and copious therapy.
Harris did well, so maybe she picks up a point, but since she’s lost about a point since the DNC, that makes it essentially a wash. While it was a good debate for Harris, it ends up meaning very little. All the hyperventilating about it is way outsized to the effect.
He did very poorly. His base is largely racist whites. Harris knows that very well and made sure to embarrass him in ways the base wouldn’t like. Belittled him to his face as if he was nothing, and smirked at his impotent old man rage. She made trump look old and bumbling, and even conservative media is having trouble denying it.
He looked weak and it will cost him votes. Especially since his campaign is barely trying dogshit at the moment.
It’s really not about him losing votes, though. Despite the fact that there are a truly mind-boggling number of idiot cultists out there who are for some reason devoted to this moron, there are not enough of them to win an election. Both candidates need to appeal to the vast pool of undecided or apathetic voters in order to win. In 2020, the Democrats won because that pool of people were highly motivated to oust Trump after living through 4 years of his presidency, but people have very short memories and even shorter attention spans, and so the Dems can’t really count on the same thing happening again in 2024.
When Trump was running against Biden at the beginning of this race, things were looking grim for the Democrats, because that group of morons who can’t be bothered to pay the slightest bit of attention to what’s happening in their government (apathetic & undecided voters) decided that they couldn’t really tell the difference between two senile, doddering old men, so Trump’s rambling incoherence wasn’t that big of a problem. Now that he’s facing someone more than 2 decades younger than him who still has the complete use of her mental faculties, it’s imperative for him to do SOMETHING to make himself not look like a shoeless old man in a hospital gown wandering between lanes of traffic after escaping from his rest home. This debate didn’t do that.
While that all may be true, if you look at projections for the electoral college based on polling numbers in battleground states, Trump is currently projected to win the presidency. So he actually doesn’t need to do much to make himself look any different, as frustrating and scary as that may be.
Current projections have Harris winning the popular vote and losing the election. So if she doesn’t increase her vote share, she’s going to lose due to the vagaries of the electoral college. She basically need to win by something absurd like 3.4% and have that adequately reflected in about five states.
Is it immoral to start a cult and continue to use cult tactics to steal members from another cult to deprogram them and herd them all into therapy? Asking for a friend, and 90% of our parents.
They were no expecting much, and he managed to even wreck those low expectations.
