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We don’t in my country, and I’m 100% sure people would complain if there was one. Even if they attended it, it would go completely over their heads probably.

A shitty capitalist society with deeply rooted individualism can’t be treated unless it’s done from the root of the problem.

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You can have a bad government with any kind of economic system. As evidenced by the USA. They tend to commit most of their atrocities outside their own country but that doesn’t make them any better than china or russia.

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Lump me in with a group you hate because you disagree with me and say we’re all the same, that’s great for proving a point.

Just remember to always miss the point and half read everything and you should be fine.

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What…?

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Probably one of the Neuralink monkeys that escaped.

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A QUICK look at his profile shows he’s from Greece. Greece is not Communist. You’re so angry about something you’re yelling at the wrong people. Take a step back, breath, take a break from Lemmy. Even if what you’re saying is accurate, the 0-60 attitude toward someone you didn’t know anything about is literally crazy.

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A QUICK look at his profile shows he’s from Greece. Greece is not Communist

What does that matter? This site is riddled with communists from all over the world

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Stop animal testing

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Cool, where should we test all the pet food and medical treatments for animals then?

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Would you like them to test on you instead?

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Yea stopping animal testing sounds great, but animal testing is the backbone of drug and medical breakthroughs. So at least for now that’s not possible

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What’s the alternative?

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Recognition that animal testing is actually pretty fucked up would be a good start toward funding research into alternatives, such as biological computer simulations.

We can simulate complex/chaotic systems, like weather, in nearly real-time, so biosim research is mainly a funding and staffing problem at this point.

Probably we’ll still need animal testing for the final phase before human trials, but we can at least reduce the need for it to bare minimums.

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Unfortunately there is no alternative

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There is.

Do it in humans.

Humans can understand the risks involved. Other animals cannot.

If we’re going to fuck something up, it better be on our own species.

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A new treatment is developed for a condition that affects babies. Are you volunteering your child for testing?

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And if you look long enough in the right places, you can also pay them peanuts… or for them 😒

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But we can’t. That’s why we’re testing it on animals

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This isn’t unethical. This is why you use animals.

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Oh man, there’s gonna be a lot of angry vegans here soon. Godspeed, sir or madam.

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Bazinga mindset is a helluva thing

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You are confusing taking a class with actually having ethics. No amount of attending a lecture about ethics will convince you if you do not, as a basic premise agree with the ethical principle that loss of life is a bad thing. And to be very clear, ethical principles are subjective. There is no objectively right or wrong thing as far nature is concerned.

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Classes don’t solve the problem entirely, but they’re a start and without them in this case a company so large and powerful that it has a space program and foreign policy planks is being guided by nothing but the intuition of someone who grew up spending money earned by child slaves and who thinks that scuttling an army’s mission in-progress is pacifism

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And to be very clear, ethical principles are subjective. There is no objectively right or wrong thing as far nature is concerned.

Deonotlogists and other Moral Realists and Universalists are shook

But yeah, let’s imagine moral ontology was solved, and that moral relativism and nihilism are the only ethical theories around…

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That sounds like a fun paradox.

Is “The only objective moral fact is that there is no objective morality” a truthful statement? Is it rational?

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Ethics class gives you tools to analyze a problem. Any good class is part of the philosophy department and leans on the classic philosphers approaches to analyze the problem. Many engineers would have no exposure to this otherwise and i think its a good part of any Universities’ engineering curriculum.

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