117 points

If your country persecutes individual piracy. Mine doesn’t.

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39 points

Our ISP sends 3 strike letters :(

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32 points

Our ISPs are too cheap and lazy to even try looking. I still use I2P, but only because I need to justify my tin foil hats collection.

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13 points

I’m pretty sure our ISPs would advertise piracy if they could

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8 points

I have had like 14 while I was still in school here in canada. if things haven’t changed you just ignore them because they can’t do jack if you don’t respond. Someone I worked with was blown away when I told him this because back home he was banned from all but the slowest ISP.

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Hah I wish we could ignore them. It seems to just vary from ISP to ISP in the US but our small town ISP turns off your connection and puts you behind a captive portal forcing you to click through and accept what you did wrong before your connection is turned back on.

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That is supposedly the case in Australia as well but I haven’t got a letter from telstra since around 2004 and I have never used a VPN and watch all my shows and movies via torrents so either I’m extremely lucky or they stopped bothering.

Though recently I started paying the $4 / month for Real Debrid for better streaming performance, which is just as good as a VPN for torrent anonymity. I used to be fundamentally against the idea of paying anything to pirate but honestly this is worth it, I’ve even been able to watch a few shows that had 0 seeders because they were previously cached.

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14 points

Scroll down and there’s a section about Australia on here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Buyers_Club

Basically, they fucked it up so bad in Aus no one’s ever tried again.

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3 points

Yep, my govt only cares about porn, manga, hentai, online gambling sites, reddit and duckduckgo.

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1 point

Why DDG?

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1 point

racist against ducks

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16 points

A VPN is just essentially a change in ISP.

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importantly it’s (hopefully) an ISP that operates from a less copyright-happy country and isn’t tied down to tons of expensive infrastructure and long-term contracts

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63 points

Yeah there is no way Surfshark, NordVPN and other services are compromised and or straight up run by the NSA

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let’s say that VPNs are compromised and “they” know that you’re downloading “illegally”

in order to prosecute, “they” have to prove you’re a pirate and show how they know

would they compromise their backDoor to go after a tiny pirate?

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21 points

you don’t really need to scare quote they in this context. The NSA and similar organizations are real and operating at this scale right now.

Will they compromise their back door to go after a pirate? No. Will they collect data on you to profile you and your activities and use that in the future? Yes.

It is not if, it is when the digital police state is imposed will we know the real end state of this level of data collection. My warning about them is not just about the pirates, its about installing their software and letting them port mirror you and cache your dns calls for years to target you later.

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28 points

This is why I compose all my messages on an air gapped computer and send them out from my compound with couriers.

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9 points

Will they collect data on you to profile you and your activities and use that in the future? Yes.

And that’s why the only thing I use my VPN for is piracy. Don’t really have a good reason to push anything else through it.

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in order to prosecute, “they” have to prove you’re a pirate and show how they know

would they compromise their backDoor to go after a tiny pirate?

this information isn’t likely to be public after the fact.

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Oh also people use VPNs to buy DIY hormones online, what happens when the inevitable US anti trans witch hunt happens?

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9 points

nothing because it’s fucking hormones. It’s not meth.

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30 points

In fairness I doubt the NSA give a single solitary fuck about piracy and aren’t about to give themselves up over a telesync rip of Beetlejuice 2.

But probably best to plan 9/11 part 2 over something a bit more secure.

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20 points

Bro I’m downloading Final Fantasy, not running a pedo marketplace. I will be fine.

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17 points

do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour mullvad vpn

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what about proton or mullvad?

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0 points

Both are considered strong choices but again… This is 100% trust me bro.

But that’s the people the bros chose to trust

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4 points

I don’t think they care about piracy.

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7 points

Title is probably true, but also it’s less likely for the NSA to leak your info than say an ISP that openly sells your info. I highly doubt that the NSA sees someone pirating Photoshop as a priority. VPNs can help with preventing a random ad from logging your real loose location, have built in DNS ad block, open up region locked content plus a list of other benefits.

VPNs absolutely help with general privacy, like not putting your personal phone number on a public registry. They are not intended to perfectly hide you from a super power’s intelligence agency lol

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7 points

Are you suggesting that it’s pointless to use a VPN?

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1 point

For anonymity, yes. Sure you might fool Google trying to match your IP to your traffic but that’s about it

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1 point

How so, specifically for logless VPNs?

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3 points

At least if the company is run from the US

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Everyone knows it’s impossible for the NSA to buy rack space in Bulgaria, where they literally don’t have to deal with any US legal process.

It’s also impossible for the NSA to market such a service via pop-privacy blogs and social media profiles.

The funny part about this is that the Snowden leaks showed that the NSA actually put a lot of effort into doing shit like this specifically to avoid all the paperwork which came with accidentally collecting data from US citizens. Keeping the data and analysis off shore means no pesky FISA paperwork.

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2 points

Yes, a hosted seedbox paid with crypto and self managed keys is the way to go for torrenting

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12 points

If you are worried about VPN’s, why are you not worried about seedbox providers?

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5 points

What evidence do you have that no-log VPNs are compromised by the NSA? What about VPNs based in other countries like Canada?

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12 points

And make sure it’s a VPN that supports port forwarding. Sharing is caring.

or just use Usenet.

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I don’t use a VPN because my government has acknowledged that an IP address cannot identify what individual was using it.

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wouldn’t trust that tbh

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I know that government prosecutions for fraud against government use IP addresses

The IP address identifies the company or home the fraud was done from, the account the money went to identifies the individual

If breaking the law and able to afford to make it difficult for prosecutors, it’s probably best to make it difficult for the prosecutors, we may have an activist pro copyright holder government in future and logs are forever (or 5 years)

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