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Yea don’t cross post from NonCredibleDefense if you want to be taken seriously.
Just look at the lengths of the children. Bit on the tall side, no?

Edit: my bad. Sorry for being snarky

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Its a meme lol

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Barely a head taller than the vehicle tires, so no, they are not on the tall side

If you meant “short side” consider the ages of the children and the fact that 5 and 3 year olds do exist in the real world

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The pic is confusing because they used similar visual cues for vehicle “hood height” compared to child “distance from vehicle”.

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Not sure the tank periscope system was properly accounted for, either.

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Those aren’t the length of the children, it’s the length of the blind spot

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This makes me wonder if there could be a regulation mandating front facing cameras on vehicles where vision is obstructed when moving at low speeds. Perhaps collision alert systems are sufficient. At any rate, there should probably be something that mandates some form of compensation for the lack of vision.

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There is no need for cameras, that is solving a problem that did not need to exist. They should not raise the front ends as they do for aesthetic reasons.

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I personally prefer the solution that maximizes liberty. If both routes, ie regulating compensation for lack of vision and prohibition of that which causes the lack of vision, accomplish the same end, ie the ensurement of safety, I would choose for former, as it maximizes personal choice and freedom.

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Except that a tablet sized screen is not accomplishing the same goal as proper visibility and people should have the freedom to use the public road safely first and foremost.

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I don’t understand how the distance to see ground in the tank is longer than those of the Dodge and Chevy, but the distance to see children is shorter.

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look at the angle on thr lines

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the tank sits lower, but the view is more restricted

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Sharper angles from the trucks. Look at the 16 Wheeler truck cabin for an extreme version of it, high up viewpoint and a large front means larger section in front of you is obscured, vs the lower to the ground but gentler angle down of the tank making it slow to see the grounds you can see shorter objects for longer.

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That will show the tankies!

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I think the real-life photo of like a dozen kids in a line in front of the hood and completely invisible from the driver’s seat of the truck is more impacting. It’s insane. People that drive trucks like that are seriously compensating for something.

I hate Elon Musk, so I don’t want to get into a whole thing about it, but the Model 3 and Y have some of the shortest front blind spots of all makes and models of vehicle, largely because their is no engine under the hood allowing for a short and low front end. I couldn’t find any data for other all-electric vehicles, but I would assume any fully electric car would be similar.

Bicycles have zero blind spot in front.

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I’m pretty sure Canoo has everyone but the bike beat.

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Wow, a body design to rival the Fiat Multipla

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If they would actually release/build the things

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I have felt this way about the Elio for years now. We aren’t allowed new competitors in car companies apparently.

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Yep other EVs have this as well. The Hyundai IONIQ has great front sightlines for an SUV IIRC.

Still a car, but I admit EVs are much less hateable in a city for multiple reasons. No stinky tailpipe, no roaring engine noise, and generally better sightlines and safety features.

I think my ideal city would be mostly bikes and ebikes, with those vehicles that can’t be replaced by bikes being EVs.

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Subarus also have pretty good visibility because of how their boxer engines sit lower than other types of engines.

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Eh, aside for Foresters… They had to add a front camera IIRC

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