According to the Australian Federal Police, a then-32-year-old man from Western Australia was disruptive on a flight headed from Perth to Sydney. As a result, the plane had to turn around and go back to Perth, which meant that the pilot was forced to dump some fuel to land.

Now, the passenger has been ordered to pay $8,630 AUD ($5,806 USD) back to the airline to cover the cost of the wasted fuel. The Perth Magistrate Court also fined him $6,055, meaning that his mid-air misbehavior has a total price tag of $11,861 – likely many times higher than whatever h

112 points

Get this in America.

One unruly passenger should not have the power to control 300 other flyers’ plans.

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They could cure a lot of it, if they stopped serving alcohol in the terminals or on the plane.

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Do you want mass murder? Because taking away a republican’s right to get drunk and express their anger for not being served first is unconstitutional, and against the principles in which this country was founded. Liberty and justice for me.

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Eh… Alcohol doesn’t care about party lines

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But then how would I get my breakfast beer? Only at an airport do you get the plausibility of being accustomed to a different time zone.

In all seriousness though, this is the classic “blame the person or the tool” argument.

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I had a layover in Midway at maybe 7:30am once. Everyone — and I mean everyone — was drinking. Like, are you going to get the shakes between security and boarding?

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Yes?

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Alcohol is the only way to survive the terribleness that is air travel, until such a time that weed vending machines become available in airports, or air travel becomes less shitty. The latter will never happen. Former inside of a decade.

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It’s pretty much a ritual of mine to be and stay hammered most of my travel day.

Chug most of a half pint of liquor in the parking garage, double of Johnnie Walker Black for pretty much every hour I’m in the airport, order some mini bottles (or carry on my own) on the plane, sleep until my destination, and then do whatever it is I’m doing that day.

But then, I handle my alcohol extremely well (and have the red hair gene that makes you less susceptible to its effect and process it more quickly). So I don’t really get in trouble.

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This only works for shorter flights, but you can eat an edible before you go into the airport. I reccomend one that you’ve tried before the flight so you know how high you’ll get and how long it’ll last.

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Alcohol is the only way to survive the terribleness that is air travel

…is it?

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They’ll never do that. Drug dealing is too lucrative and alcohol is the western world’s favorite poison.

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As a person who likes to drink a beer to take the edge off, meh.

You don’t need alcohol or drugs to be a disruptive asshole.

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Sin pays.

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typo was actually cure

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Wow just directly parroting one corporate airlines solution to the hell that is airline travel? If they’d instead suggested that they fill the plane with knockout gas to put the passengers to sleep, would you be suggesting that here instead?

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You can’t drink in a museum.

You can’t drink at a park.

You can’t drink in a lot of public places.

Why’s that?

Because people can’t act like fucking adults and so this has been banned in public places.

An airplane is a public place. It’s a close quarter public place, where when one person fucks up, it fucks it up for the whole plane.

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They should outfit planes with brigs.

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Honestly that’s way less than it should be given how much other passengers were inconvenienced. That might be harder to quantify the value of, though, I suppose.

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can start by reinbursing all passengers 3x their ticket value

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Depends on who gets to decide what qualifies as “bad behavior”

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It must have been bad enough for the staff to decide that it’s better to fuck up a plane full of passengers itinerary by turning around than continue on with the flight. I seriously doubt anyone would want to make that call unless they absolutely had to.

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Mr Rogers before, Tom Hanks now.

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The single highest individual penalty, $40,823, was issued to a traveler who brought their own alcohol on board, was intoxicated, attempted to smoke marijuana in the lavatory, and sexually assaulted a flight attendant – all in a single flight.

Elon? You flying commercial these days?

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They said alcohol, not ketamine

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Maybe it was just to wash down some Ambien.

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The article doesn’t say why the pilot had to dump fuel to land. Was this because the plane needed to be lighter (dumping what would have otherwise been consumed)? If anyone can provide context that’d be appreciated.

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Airplanes are usually limited to land at only around half of the total weight they can take off with.

This isn’t normally a problem for normal trips.

If they went to a higher landing weight, the landing gear struts would have to be designed quite a bit stronger. This would make the landing gear heavier, and that would reduce the useful payload weight in the plane.

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Which that’s something i find interesting about electric planes they’re testing. MTOW and MLW are almost identical in an electric plane. You can’t just dump fuel

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Which is good for the environment but makes it really hard to design airplanes.

I’m guessing it’s comparable to designing SSTOs in KSP where it’s hard to get to orbit (and often back) on a single stage because you don’t get much lighter.

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The Perth to Sydney flight is a longer one. I think around 3000km, so maybe they had a bigger fuel load

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Half the weight of a plane is the fuel??

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A350-900

Maximum takeoff weight: 283 tonnes

Maximum landing weight: 207 tonnes

Manufacturers’ empty weight: 115.7 tonnes

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They dump fuel so they can safely land due to weight, as you guessed. In this case it was a cross-country trip, so the plane had a fair amount of fuel that needed to be offloaded.

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The story in the article about the guy who tried to get into the cockpit is amazing… he’s lucky he didn’t get himself killed by the other passengers. Since that little incident twenty years ago even Granny will chew on your face if it looks like you’re pulling that shit.

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