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It is really sad how many people would trust teachers in a classroom with guns but not books.

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Not people generally.

Conservatives, specifically.

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Frankly, I’m at the point where I’m starting to question if even that part:whole relationship is really applicable.

Don’t get me wrong: I understand why it’s a really bad thing to start dehumanizing your enemy, but WTF are you supposed to do when they jettison everything but venal hatred and sociopathy and thus dehumanize themselves?

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You’re supposed to understand that the vast majority of society are shallow idiots that’ve been misled by immersion in state-sponsored propaganda.

Then, engage the socialists and communists. They know what to do, why, and how. The last time we had the numbers for meaningful change was the late 1940s: Veterans of WW1 became armed socialists and communists which resulted in The New Deal.

Corporate personhood is what’s made much of this incarnation possible. If you want to dehumanize something then focus on the root cause.

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They are also trying to get rid of teachers. Eventually charter schools will just have a person in a classroom pressing play for a video and handing out papers. Grading and testing will be done through computers. A psych report will be made for each student to determine how to brainwash them further.

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The video will be produced by Sinclair Media and even math will include a polemic about how awful socialism is and how great Trump is.

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The pen is mightier.

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Also, schools can’t afford books. Giving every (or even a few) teachers guns would cost millions per school district. We have money for more guns but not computers and books

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Is arming teachers a serious argument by anyone?

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Quite a number of far right idiots are, unfortunately.

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I’ve been hearing that exact argument since Columbine.

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Unfortunately, yes. It is a topic of debate going back decades and typically gets revived after a publicized school shooting.

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Our school (who wasn’t actually considering it) said the insurance company would drop our coverage if we allowed armed teachers on pemesis. Honestly, I think I’d quit if I knew someone on staff was concealed carrying. We deal with a lot of shot, but the last thing I want between me and a troubled kid is a gun.

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Teacher here. I consider all of the teachers I’ve worked with, and I consider how few of them I would trust with a loaded firearm under the best possible circumstances (maybe 10 percent).

Then I consider the number of those who would actually consider using a firearm (down to about 3 percent).

And then I consider how many of those I would trust with a firearm in a room full of students… and it’s zero.

I finally just avoided the problem by moving to a country where civilians are not generally allowed to own guns and school shootings are not a problem.

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Right?! I barely trust some of my colleagues to do their day job reliably let alone manage a firearm in a high pressure scenario.

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This is what I keep saying. If I thought my kids’ teachers were evil indoctrinators trying to force an ideology I definitely wouldn’t want them to have a gun, and if I thought they were trustworthy enough to have a gun around my child I’d be totally fine with them making any and all decisions about what else they were going to do in that classroom.

Of course, not being an insane person, I actually want them to not need a gun at all and also for them to have the freedom and resources to teach and stock their classroom as they see fit.

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Republicans don’t want freedom, they want to be feared. Because fear is respect to them. And the imbued threat by carrying a gun and the false demand of respect it projects is useless. At no point in human history, regardless of the punishment, has crime of any sort not existed. Carting around guns on every hip won’t change that at all.

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Turns out if you expect someone might pull a gun on you while you commit a crime, youll just bring a gun with you too.

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