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The original was posted on /r/linustechtips by /u/RevolutionaryAd8204 on 2024-09-14 15:50:43+00:00.

39 points

Not to mention that you can buy the previous version for 300 € and get most of the same value (less storage, gpu, screen, battery)

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You can also upgrade the storage and screen if you want.

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I bought 512GB OLED and then immediately swapped the SSD to 2 Tb

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You cannot put an OLED screen in an LCD model.

They have different internals. The screen upgrades that exist for the LCD are to swap in the anti-glare coated version, or a higher resolution.

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Ah, I didn’t realise that. But I mostly use my Steamdeck docked for gaming on my TV so personally haven’t bothered looking into a screen upgrade.

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Both of those are still upgrades though - they didn’t say “upgrade the screen to LED”. It’s a good callout though!

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2 points

gpu?

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The oled version contains a different soc iirc

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*squints* Sir, that is an LCD model you have there.

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Yeah, but can any of those play the saves I already have on my computer??

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The Steam saves, yes, the Steam deck would play them just fine.

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49 points

Yes, the Steam Deck can use saves you have in the Steam cloud. You can also probably manually copy the files over.

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Either through Steam Cloud as others have already said, or something like Ludusavi.

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Um… Yeah? You about Steam Cloud, right?

Besides that, if it’s a none-Steam game you could just… Transfer the same file to the Deck. Did with a couple of games through Google Drive.

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As others already stated, its possible, provided the game itself is compatible with Steam Deck. While there is the Steam Cloud that saves and loads saves automatically (which does not cost you anything BTW), some games do not support the Cloud. As this is PC basically where you have access to the filesystem, you can copy files over. Only thing that is a problem is, that Steam Deck will not get recognized as a drive if you plug it to USB connection. That’s a whole other story, but to answer your question, yes.

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Only issue you’ll probably have is if the cloud saves are for a different OS, so if you’re playing on Windows make sure it’s the Proton version of the game that’s installed on the Deck, if you’re playing a native Linux version of the game on your PC then make sure it’s the native Linux version that’s installed on the Deck (usual defaults to the Proton version).

It’s just an issue with the cloud save feature being too dumb, the path to the save folder isn’t the same on both platforms so it doesn’t sync well (although I think it does on some games).

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It is rare to see a game get this wrong, the last one I saw was a Borderlands. If you look at a game’s Steamdb cloud listing, they list Windows’s save location, and then Mac/Linux saves are expressed as a rewrite rule.

Cloud saves on PS are handled quite simply - if you didn’t pay for your very own PS Plus then go fuck yourself. I have lost dozens of Aloy hours on my brother’s PS4.

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Midnight Suns is the one I know of, and they fixed it early on. :)

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I’ve had to fuck around with my Windows saves (backed to the cloud) when installing the Linux version of Wasteland 2 and the two Pillars of Eternity games and I eventually just gave up and installed them with Proton so it would download the saves to the right place for them to work.

If you play Deadfire on multiple Linux devices you need to install with Proton compatibility otherwise cloud saves don’t work at all because Steam doesn’t back up the right folder (it uses the Windows folder name which has a lower case o in the word Of), that means that if you wipe your hard drive and rely on cloud saves then you’re fucked because Steam will have created an empty folder to backup.

And remember, as I said, the Deck installs the Windows version by default but if you have Linux on your PC then chances are cloud saves between your Deck and PC won’t work unless you force the Deck to install the Linux version of games.

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I’m not sure if it’s the meme but here (Europe) there is a huge difference in price between the basic 512GB OLED SD and the basic PS5 pro option.

569€ vs 800€.

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… and you have to pay for PS Plus repetitively to play games with friends.

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37 points

Jokes on you I don’t have any friends

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I feel like that’s cherry picking, like I’m comparing the cheapest Dutch webshop price for a new PS5 and it’s € 549,99 vs the Steam Deck which is only purchasable through Valve’s store for… € 419?

Wait why tf do people buy PS5’s here‽

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I haven’t even picked the LCD 128GB SD…just didn’t pick the option with max storage. Also haven’t picked the PS5P with the Disc reader…

But anyway. This meme is very specific (and pointless) and it is just targeting a minority who would be choosing between a high end console to play at the sofa on the big screen and a handheld to play anywhere.

I think the main SD group of people, is people who want a handheld, and that group of people generally choose between SD, Nintendo Switch, or other handhelds (like the Asus ROG etc).

Some would go with Nintendo because they just care about Nintendo games. But the majority is just looking for a handheld to play any good games anywhere.

To answer the last question. I have a PC, a PS5 and a SD. So some people who own a SD would buy a PS5. If I’m on my couch I use the PS5. If I’m at the terrace, or on a flight, etc. I use the SD.

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I get that but damn, between a Switch or SD who’d choose for a PS5?

I personally already have a Switch (since launch), so many great games on it, which dimimishes the SD’s selling point for me. Those two really do thread in the same waters.

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If you think $700 is bad, it’s £700 in the UK… which is $913. 🤢

Also:

  • median household income, UK (2022): £32,400 ($42,265)

  • median household income, USA (2022): $74,580

A PS5 Pro is 26% of the typical UK household monthly income.

A PS5 Pro is 11% of the typical US household monthly income.

The US pricing is bad. The UK pricing is absolutely insane.

The OLED Deck starts at £479. Still a lot but not as egregious. The LCD Deck is currently £262 ($344), which is pretty great.

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Anyone know the cost in the US including tax? Don’t they leave that off?

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It varies state by state, some like Oregon have 0% tax, but most will be around 13% 6-8% or so iirc.

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4 points

No sales tax in NH either.

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how does this work if you live close to another state? As in if you live in a state with sales tax but down the road is a state without sales tax- why ever shop in your state?

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6 points

The highest state sales tax is 9.56%, most states are 6-8%. Though some major cities also have a small sales tax as well.

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The US doesn’t have a national sales tax, so it depends whether the individual state imposes a tax or not.

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If you think 26% is bad, in Russia it’s going to be priced at around ₽80-100k(~$883, VAT included), but the median monthly salary is ₽43.500 - $480… That’s well over 100% median household income given that over 38% families only have a single parent. And I’m pretty sure that’s not even the worst out there, think like Argentina has an extortionate import tax or something?

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I don’t remember exactly, but some relative poverty lines start at 60% of median household income.

  • £700 / (£32,400 * .6 / 12) ≈ .43, thus 43% of monthly income for a poor household in the UK
  • $700 / ($74,580 * .6 / 12) ≈ .19, thus 19% of monthly income for a poor household in the US

I hope median household income is netto, otherwise this is skewed.

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17 points

If you think $700 is bad

I don’t:

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Cool chart.

It really makes the point to me that the PS1 and PS2, when adjusted for inflation, and for relative compute power, were just such a fantastic deal.

I was recovering from some serious console-purchase fatigue, when I bought my PS1 to replace my garage sale purchased Super NES. It was a big deal to me.

I’ve paid PS5 prices (inflation adjusted) for a game system a few times (my first Switch and SteamDeck), but they’ve been a lot more mind blowing than what appears to be on offer today.

Disclaimer: My favorite game is 8-bit, anyway.

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Also drives home the point the PS3 was insanely priced.

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Charts like that are great, I love to see them. However, they need to have a year for the inflation-adjusted dollars else it’s nearly meaningless when referred back to.

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So the most comparable console there is $456, and this is $700.

That is bad.

The PS5 Pro barely costs more to produce.

$700 is bad. $913 is awful.

Just because the PS3 (a console universally panned as being way too expensive) was similar doesn’t mean PS5 Pro pricing is alright.

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I’m not sure what this proves 🤔

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