cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16511967
Someone got woken up on Sunday morning 🤣
If its any consolation wrt Harley riders, the company is losing customers to old age, and attempts to appeal to the younger generation just get the old one (their existing base) mad enough to protest loudly against it, leading to the rep of it being a weekend warrior bike for grandpa to live his never was (as opposed to has been) biker fantasy. Not gonna stop a particular brand of pencil-dicks from making their cars loud and obnoxious, ofc, but still, take w’s where you can.
South Park completely nailed the “removeds” episode. That was one for the ages. Aww c’mon, are we really worse than Reddit when it comes to censorship? Goddammit… Seems the “removeds” won.
South Park completely nailed the “removeds” episode. That was one for the ages. Aww c’mon, are we really worse than Reddit when it comes to censorship? Goddammit… Seems the “removeds” won.
Can you reveal what’s behind the censorship enforced by Lemmy.world without triggering it?
Alternatively I would suggest you look for another instance that isn’t draconian.
I’m assuming he is talking about the biker gang episode, in which case he is probably talking about the F-word (meaning the slur against gay people).
Personally, I think having a filter against slurs is not unreasonable
Somewhat.
If the poster themselves removed it, then no - these usually shows up as “deleted” rather than “removed” (but not always). Sometimes apps that don’t properly pay attention to the removal request can still see these, but I know of no effective way to view these routinely, short of spinning up your own instance and archiving not only every post and comment but also all of their edits as well.
For mod removal, you can check the modlog (for your instance here, or the one for Lemmy.World, both of which theoretically should show the same contents, but in practice they don’t for whatever reasons). Note that is the entire modlog for the entire Fediverse, so it requires filtering to find the specific post/comment that you want to know about. The Lemmy devs could help people see the modlog much easier, but they don’t. They don’t seem too big on such democratic efforts, and very often simply ban people outright, from the entire instance including communities they’ve never once visited, if you ever criticize what they say or if you say something that they do not agree with. Though they did recently release a feature to allow mods to do this - further increasing the power of the establishment, while leaving common plebes like us to have to filter the modlog (which also can hide the identity of the mod who removed it).
Ergo, I would not hold my breath waiting for this feature. At least not on Lemmy, but perhaps from the more democratically-managed PieFed or Sublinks or Mbin or such… I could really see that happening for those?
Edit: oh but for text like the “removed”, hell no, that’s also a lost cause - at least, again, on the Lemmy codebase, unless you use an instance that decides not to implement the language filtering.
while I actually loved that south park episode and their point that words (that word specifically) change their meaning over time, the “answer” they came up with is a joke of course. A joke that only works because bikers are upset and confused by the ‘real’ meaning of ‘flag’. If the original meaning didn’t exist it couldn’t be used to hurt the bikers’ feelings, it relies on its existing meaning to hurt them.
You cannot forcibly change what words mean. No matter how hard Trey and Matt wish they were iconoclasts and as much as i appreciate them? They REALLY aren’t as clever as they think they are. What they did, if they had succeeded would just allow CHUDs to yell ‘flag’ at homosexuals and pretend they were calling them bikers, so it’s a good thing it flopped.
As cool as it would be if “bundle of sticks” stopped being a slur, the slur itself is not the problem, the intent is. Intent behind calling bikers ‘flags’ is to make them feel like you’re calling them homosexuals, relies on homosexuality itself being a slur. The end. No debate. Full stop. It doesn’t even change anything, its hurting feelings RELIES on the meaning we currently agree on. Feel me?
According to Wikipedia, that slur is really only used in the US and Canada. If you go to the UK and say it, they will hand you a cigarette.
Totally agree on all counts. As a teen when it originally aired I thought it was funny for the reasons you outlined (Trey and Matt’s intent) but yes in 2024 it just isn’t okay anymore (if it ever was at all) and I bet Trey and Matt agree and wouldn’t make that episode today
I’ve been thinking of getting a motorcycle, and Harley has no entry level bikes So new riders try a Honda or Kawasaki when young and broke and build brand loyalty to that, I’m sure.
Not surprising Harley is dying. All their stuff is so expensive you never get to figure out if it’s good or if they’re coasting on reputation while quality goes to shit or something.
The only reason really to get a Harley is to… Get a Harley. There are other bikes that are cheaper, more powerful, more comfortable, more reliable, and objectively better in most regards.
You’re misunderstanding those numbers. The current older generation is boomers which got their name from the baby boom. People don’t have kids like that anymore so everyone including retail stores will see drops in body count. If anything will kill them off its going to be their pricing. It is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper to go with nearly any other brand.
Had a friend who said he was considering removing the exhaust on his bike because it would sound cooler, everyone else in the friendgroup said we would pour sugar in his gastank if he ever did that
Sugar in the gas tank doesn’t do anything. You gotta put in the oil fill cap.
Huh, yeah it seems the sugar in the gastank thing is just a myth, but won’t sugar in the oil have the same issue? Sugar is insoluble so it can’t pass through the oil filter, so it’ll just chill in the filter and oil pan?
New Rule: if the motorcycle you purchased exceeds noise ordinance levels for a given area, said motorcycle cannot be sold, driven, or registered in that area, nor can it be parked in a public parking spot in that area.
Honestly though, I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances and anyone with more than one violation would have their bike impounded.
I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances
I live next to a catholic church/school and sometimes on the weekend or near sunset a local kid rides his motocross bike all around the church yard. Annoying as fuck and it chews up the yard and everything. I’ve called the cops three or four times but they’ve never bothered to send an officer out. I called the church and all they did was install a bunch of super-bright LED lights which are on 24 hours a day. Kid still rides his bike there and now I can’t sit outside at night anymore because of the fucking lights.
Gather up your neighbors and have them come and strategically park their cars on the church yard, physically blocking the kid’s path. If he can trespass, so can you.
I wish police would simply enforce noise ordinances
Easier said than done, unfortunately. They need sound meters to do anything reliably, and then there’s the issue of catching them. Even slow, inefficient bikes tend to be much faster and more maneuverable than patrol cars, so motorcyclists are quite a bit more likely to run. Especially the ones that are already violating noise ordinances.
You know what is faster than a motor bike?
Radiowaves.
The police patrol knows the direction that the biker is going, call a patrol there.
Light is also faster than a motor bike, get a recording of the license plate and use that to find it.
Or if the church/neighbours simply start logging the guy’s schedule, give it to the police and have them wait for him.
We basically have this in Japan. People will put their bike back to factory for the inspection and then change it out. They get caught rarely, but not often. loud-assed 暴走族 (bousouzoku) groups love to ride around in the countryside where I live and I can hear them from quite far. I really wish the police would do something about them.
I’m fine with bikes being noisy. Bikes can be hard to see, sometimes I hear them before I see them.
I’m not fine with douchenozzles intentionally revving them up in otherwise quiet subdivisions as the OP describes.
Huh. I was taught this for years as a rider.
Did some searching and well damn.
https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a35952569/loud-pipes-do-not-save-lives/
This is the classic argument for loud bikes, and it shows a lack of understanding physics and human nature.
Physics, the sound is generated by the exhaust pointing backwards, this means that the sound doesn’t propagate well ahead of the bike, but way better behind the bike.
Human nature, human nature when hearing a loud sound is to find the source, however, by the time a driver has heard the sound the source have often passed, causing a needless distraction. Also, bikes tend to make a very basy sound, this is terrible for humans to hear the direction of.
Finally, if bikers are so concerned about being noticed by other drivers, why don’t they wear high visibility vests and trousers?
Most bikes are not bassy it’s mostly thumpers and harleys that are bassy. Just wait until you get passed by a bunch of squids on sport bikes with parallel twins and I4s, those are much higher, and represent a large percentage of the bikers out there.
Also, I’m grateful that my bike is loud. I don’t rev it to high hell though, but an additional sensory input for the fuckhead texting on the freeway is not a bad thing. A lot of people where I live (Seattle) don’t pay attention on the road and it’s pretty scary on a bike surrounded by them sometimes. Sometimes it is simply not possible to have a decent safety bubble when there’s traffic.
I agree with you, and I absolutely don’t wish harm or accidents to anyone on a motorcycle.
A guy in my neighborhood just bought a motorcycle. He doesn’t rev it up or try to be inconsiderate, but just the act of twisting the throttle to drive away at a slow speed violates the city noise ordinance and can be heard for a half mile or more.
loud pipes save morons not intelligent enough to drive defensively.
the idea that your shitmobile must blast 100db just for the rider’s safety is absolute bullshit sold by harley boomers, they don’t care about painfully loud noises, they’ve already replaced their hearing with tinnitus and want everyone else to enjoy the never ending eEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE too.
I would rather visual indicators of their presence like a flashing light of a specific color
Not sure why you’re being downvoted.
I’ve been riding for years but had to renew my license. The motorcycle tests now has a section where you have to find the motorcyclist in the rain.
And honestly, that section broke me. I love riding in dark colors on my dark bike. But I’d be god damn near invisible in the rain.
And I wished this test was forced on everybody (motorcyclists, car heads, hell even bike riders).
I had to listen to a friend of my gf’s sister talking how she will make her car loud and all that. I really wanted to punch her in the face for being such an absolute dumbass. Why do you need your car to be above the legal sound limit?
Because she either a sadist, a psychopath, and/or a narcissist.
Send her this article: Who Wants a Loud Car? [Psychology Today]
Tell her to get help.
The louder the vehicle, the dumber the driver.
I’m driving an EV and I would like to prove you wrong.
I was making tea in a teapot, when I poured in the boiled water and closed the lid, the hot air inside expanding and making the tea overflowing through the spout. In a panic, I quickly used my finger to plug the spout in an attempt to stop the overflowing, and thus burned my finger.
My best friend of 20 years was sitting there and witnessed the whole thing. It has been years since and he’s still bringing it up occasionally.
“A falling knife has no handle.”
Your reflexes were faster than your brain, happens sometimes.
Yep. Every time a blade is dropped I step back and push/pull anyone else away.
I shave with a safety razor and made that mistake once. Thankfully a minor scratch but still scary.
the future’s gonna be fun, watching these idiots lose their entire identity - vroom vroom - to the inescapable fact that they’re killing themselves and our environment with their bullshit.
the temper tantrums are going to be hilarious, and more than a few will die to hold on to their noisemaking smog machines, because to them, that’s freedom.
