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Hell who can afford beef anymore?

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I just buy from a local farmer. 1/2 cow and 1/2 pig feed my family for a year.
To get the same amount of meat from a commercial butcher it’d take probably hundreds of not thousands of animals.

Pigs are the only animal I struggle with eating, morally. Cows are gentle but really dumb and I don’t have moral issues about eating birds.

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What do you mean a commercial butcher will need thousands of animals to produce the same amount of meat as a half cow locally? I haven’t heard an argument that a little meat from a bunch of animals is ethically any different than a lot of meat from one animal, just curious.

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Pigs are the only animal I struggle with eating, morally.

Yeah, they’re pretty intelligent and emotionally aware, at least as much as your average dog.

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Not eating beef is pretty easy. Lots of alternatives.

I dropped beef and pork and stayed with turkey and fish.

Found a bunch of plant based options to replace the beef texture too.

It’s really just some stupid mindset about STEAK that many Americans have.

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I’m not vegan, and not trying to say people should be vegan. I love me a good steak, but I was out with some vegan friends, and we went to a vegan restaurant. They served me something that was doing an excellent impression of a steak. Good enough that if I knew which various plant protein they were using, I’d make that at home.

Burgers they have down these days, and eating veggies burgers allows me to have more meals a week without meat. Same for most sausages. I don’t know how they did it, but I had a vegan brat that had a snappy “skin.”

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this is warmed-over poore-nemecek 2018. that’s the primary basis for the claims about the climate, but the methodology of that study is fucked, and it’s a disservice to actual climate science to keep touting this meta"study" that misuses its source material and myopically focuses on distilling data instead of understanding the complexity of our agricultural systems. the textile industry’s water use, land use, and emissions, i guarantee, are being counted in poore-nemecek as emissions from beef. i didn’t pull out the data from the separate reference to water use, but i will eat my hat if that doesn’t, as well.

eating less beef has not been effective at stopping the growth of the beef industry for all the people who have done so. we need a real solution, and trying to influence individual consumer choice isn’t working.

edit: down voting doesn’t change the truth

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