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“let an entire country have guns. what could go wrong?”
where was the “good guy with gun” to save the day? excluding professional trained security members
Well, in some sense, that’s precisely what the Secret Service was in this case – the proverbial good guy with a gun.
I think the fringe 2A people basically want a world that is some combination of the wild west from movies and a militarized society filled with bodyguards and escorts.
Note: they all always assume they’re a protagonist or antagonist in this hypothesized world, i.e., they’re always the person with bodyguards, a body guard, or an outlaw with a gun moving through the tumbleweeds. They’re never all the random people killed along the way.
doesn’t that render the whole question as nonsense? do you think there’s an expectation (among the 2a idiots) out there that good guys with guns are immediately emptying clips at anyone who is bad and also has a gun? how would they know?
this is the secret service’s job, and they performed it. doing the “good guy with a gun” bit is so obviously out of place here, no matter what you think of guns or trump or the secret service. save it for situations where it actually makes sense.
Stop fucking edging me god fucking damn.
Nobody should want these guys to finish the job, especially before the election. That’s a recipe to end up with President Vance, and the man is an absolute moron. He makes Dan Quayle look like the spelling bee champion.
Donald Trump doesn’t deserve to die from an assassin’s bullet. He deserves to die of natural causes, in prison.
You are right, but I dont think the cult would unify around someone else that quickly. In fact, I think chaos that nobody that is sane would truly want would immediately ensue.
On the other hand, every minute he is allowed to operate is a minute that extremists like the Proud Boys, Christian Nationalist, and just an unimaginable rogue gallery of others is actively injected into roles that they can cause extreme damage at.
The unfortunate part is my second point will continue being true rather Trump is bunking in Reagan’s torment pitch or not. Mask off will be the policy going forward, just manipulative nasty shit that gets nothing done but the rich richer and the Earth sicker.
Edit: and since I’m ranting I’d like to add; I care not one bit about “justice” served to Trump. I care only that we can recover from and avoid the circumstances that brings people like him to power. Send him to oblivion, lock him in a cell, leave him to die in an old person’s home alone once he outlives his use, whatever. I care that we notice what brings these people to power; Fear, Instability, and the abandonment of our own citizens. If we dont educate and care for one another, we are more susceptible to fascism again and again. If we dont strengthen our most vulnerable, and instead cater to those who already have everything, this will just happen again.
Vance is immensely unlikable even amongst the republican base. And the past eight years have made it clear that trump can only really get trump elected. The only downside of him going to hell is that it will give republicans a few more years to figure out their post-trump pivot (which seems to be liz cheney).
I feel like with Vance if no one specifically woke him up in the morning and made him his pop tarts he’d just miss the inauguration
I heard he is banned from Hyatt place chain wide since they all have couches.
Also, if trump’s out, I could totally see someone like Romney stepping up, playing the “adult in the room” card, rallying a ton of centrists and economic right folks and getting just enough of the maga types (because he’s not a minority woman) to win.
While I would take Romney over the majority of Republicans, there is zero chance that he would rally any kind of enthusiasm with the Republican base. In fact, he would likely drive away undecided voters who were leaning Trump since he is reasonable and the only reason to go with Trump is because of misremembering his time in office or wanting a narcissistic strong man.
There’s 0 chance the RP would put Vance up as the new nominee, unless they’re already bound and required to.
Assassination would be good for MAGA. They’d worship him as a martyr.
I’d like Trump to die ASAP. From natural causes, like a heart attack from eating too much McD’s.
Why would that not martyr him anyway?
If I were to die now they would say it was so that my soul could lead them.
- Paul Atreides, Dune 1965
There are zero people to step in and rally voter support for MAGA without Trump.
There’s JD Vance.
There’s Ron DeSantis.
There’s Jim Jordan.
There’s Matt Gaetz.
There are plenty of MAGA republicans in Congress who would step up. To say otherwise is to be living under a rock. Trump is far from the only prominent fascist ass hole in US politics.
Anyone with a functional brain knows Trump is a threat to democracy. So I have a feeling this won’t be the last attempt
i find it strange that there would be shots fired and the perpetrator would survive to tell a tale.
on the other hand, the secret service agents must despise that dipshit more than anyone, since he willingly put their lives at risk multiple times, so i have hard time imagining they would be in on any sort of pre-planned PR show…
The guy was behind a fence, with just the barrel of the gun poking through, so it’s not too surprising their shots missed.
Yeah, probably not. But would-be assassins aren’t necessarily the sharpest people around.
The effective range of an AK-47 is 380 yards. The shots were taken somewhere between 300 and 500 yards. I don’t think the shooter had a chance of making that shot and it is more likely that he was just trying to make himself famous.
