Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently made headlines for calling perennial Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein “predatory” and “not serious.” AOC is right.

Giving voters more choices is a good thing for democracy. But third-party politics isn’t performance art. It’s hard work — which Stein is not doing. As AOC observed: “[When] all you do is show up once every four years to speak to people who are justifiably pissed off, but you’re just showing up once every four years to do that, you’re not serious.”

To be clear: AOC was not critiquing third parties as a whole, or the idea that we need more choices in our democracy. In fact, AOC specifically cited the Working Families Party as an example of an effective third party. The organization I lead, MoveOn, supports their 365-day-a-year efforts to build power for a pro-voter, multi-party system. And I understand third parties’ power to activate voters hungry for alternatives: I myself volunteered for Ralph Nader in 2000, and that experience helped shape my lifelong commitment to people-first politics.


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Exactly this. That woman is always vapor until an election year.

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First past the post duopolies are not serious democracies.

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Neither are dictatorships though, that’s the problem. Now is not the time to be fighting the “but it would be better if there were more parties” fight.

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John Oliver convinced me that Jill Stein is a dumbfuck back in 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU

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At her peak, Jill Stein broke just above 1%.

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Jill Stein is a russian asset

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Supporting evidence for the 3 downvotes ATM:

Putin’s Shill Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.

2015 Stein breaking bread with Putin, his senior staff, and Mike Flynn (later Trump’s national security advisor

More context:

For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.

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Just missing Lavrov and you’d have all four horsemen in the same picture

Nvm i mistook Ivanov for Medvedev, only two horsemen at this table with Jill Stein

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Downvotes are probably the people still livid that Tulsi failed, and who want a third party to break into this hopelessly entrenched duopoly of an election system.

Fair enough, but thinking you can fix it by yourself isn’t going to fix it, just help Trump win.

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Yeah you’re right. Their brainless response normally is to just shift focus away from trump as if he is irrelevant to the conversation

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Or people smacking their foreheads that anyone took her seriously after she was revealed to be a Russian plant way back in 2017.

I didn’t downvote, but I can’t upvote either, because seriously?

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I downvoted because disbanding nato is a good thing and arming an authoritarian government is bad.

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They are rigged and corrupted for sure just like every popular politician but let’s not forget that NATO is a terroristic organization and that producing or sending cluster munition to an authoritarian government is not a good thing.

We should take everyone into account for chilling with russian leaders and mafiosi not just jill stein

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Notice the group you call a terrorist organization grows when the nation they say they are organized to protect against invades other countries. If Russia wants NATO to go away all they have to do is stop invading counties and it will slowly dissolve and disappear. They invaded Georgia in 2008 and the world didn’t do enough, they invaded Crimea (Ukraine) in 2014 and the world didn’t do enough. 2022 they set out to invade Ukraine again, and finally the world started to do more. 3 strikes. Now NATO grows because counties in the region don’t feel safe from Russia. If they stop being a threat, counties in the region will slowly leave NATO.

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A spoiler is something that only exists in the mind of Liberals, even if there were no 3rd party candidates running, we would not vote for your right wing pieces of shit. There’s a better chance you would vote for a Republican than any of us would vote for either right wing party.

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A spoiler is something that only exists in the mind of Liberals

Math. You’re disagreeing with math. Or are completely unaware of how FPTP voting works (I know this isn’t the case).

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A spoiler is something that only exists in the mind of Liberals

Dude, I already showed it to you.

Election report for election "Plurality 2 Candidates"
Total people: 1047
11% of people supported the winner.

Kruger - 112 votes - WINNER
Sahl - 111 votes

Election report for election "Plurality 3 Candidates"
Total people: 1047
10% of people supported the winner.

Sahl - 109 votes - WINNER
Kruger - 93 votes
Maikol - 91 votes

The overlap of two circles means there will be an area shared in between. That’s the math, you can’t get around that.

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Lmao. I bet you always got your tests back face down.

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Given the hypothetical that Kamala and Donald are the only 2 available to vote for, who would you prefer win?

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Who is this “we” you keep referencing?

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