For evading a $2.90 subway fare…

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The part they didn’t include in the headline is that the cops shot the bystander in the head.

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I automatically filled in that blank. Because, of course the cops managed to fuck up a sitiation. Not surprised.

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Even if you filled in the blank, it’s still important to call out cop-excusing passive voice every single time just to highlight how pervasive a problem it is.

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OK… It is in the very first sentence of the article.

The other part they didn’t include in the headline is that the fare evader pulled a knife when the police stopped him. This is also in the first sentence of the article.

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The “knife” they mysteriously haven’t been able to find?

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OK… It is in the very first sentence of the article.

No it isn’t. The first sentence is “New York police have defended their actions after a bystander was shot in the head as two officers tackled a fare-evader armed with a knife in a busy subway station”. Nowhere there does it specify that the police were the ones that did the shooting.

Edit: The article seems to have been updated since my initial comment, the opening sentence now reads “Protesters in New York have demanded accountability after police fired at a suspected fare-evader in a busy subway station, hitting a bystander in the head”. However, the headline is also different, and is about protests, so I wonder if the whole article has been replaced.

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So, what’s your point?

Any of this change the innocence of the person they shot in the head??

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Cracking down on fare evasion doesn’t even make sense financially. Assuming those cops are making the starting salary for NYPD officers, every single cop would need to catch roughly 54 people every day, each, for them to break even on lost profits. It cant possibly be that big of an issue there.

This is a tragedy. And one that was preventable to boot.

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You’re forgetting that having them posted there allows them harass certain people.

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They said it’s cracking down on crime within the train / subway system of which checking fares is a part. So they don’t have them there to just check fares but their job is to reduce and prevent crimes and while they there they check for fares.

One guy skipped fares, he had a history of mental disorders and law violations, and their best course of action is to shoot him, and some bystanders. The fact that both officers shot the guy, with sufficient bullets fired that random bystanders can be hit. Their aim is dog shit.

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7 points

I would like to add that mental issues is not an excuse to shoot.

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4 points

I think it makes the shooting worse.

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Tom Donlon, the city’s interim police commissioner, ordered a full investigation but added: “Make no mistake, the events that occurred… were the results of an armed perpetrator”.

These spineless fucks can’t even admit they shot two innocent people, one in the head, for, like, $3. It’s not like the guy with a KNIFE could have shot them .

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They never found a knife. They claim someone picked it up and left with it in the chaos, which is obviously bullshit. “I’m gonna ignore the cops flagrantly firing into a crowd in my direction to go pick up that free knife”

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11 points

Hey man, a free knife is a free knife!!!

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You can get shot by the NYPD any day, but how many opportunities are you going to get for a free knife.

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    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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